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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Becoming a Better ENTP: How is it Done?

    I want to be the best person possible; I'm constantly striving to reach the next level of personal development. I don't have any confirmed ENTPs in my circle of friends to model myself after. So I'm wondering what success and growth looks like in an ENTP.

    Everything I read says: "Develop your Ti, and everything else will follow." That's brilliant, but how? How, how, how? In what way? I want to know how exactly this is done. Crossword puzzles, chess, Bejeweled, reading... what?

    Also, how important is socializing to an ENTP? I've been introverting more lately, and my work requires me to work long hours all alone. Is this fine for my type, or do I need to make a concentrated effort to fortify my diet with a specific RDA of people time?

    Any advice will be appreciated immensely.



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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenApple View Post
    I want to be the best person possible...

    Everything I read says: "Develop your Ti, and everything else will follow."
    Somehow, I find those contradictory. For me, being a better person is less about developing mental super powers, and more about learning to do right by others. Being the quickest thinker in a room is nice and all, but on many levels, it's just a party trick.

    Finding a way of incorporating Si is the road to maturity, wisdom, and being a better person. It's where acceptance comes from, and actually figuring out The Big Picture. The way to get there is either through life experience, or lots of hard thinking about yourself and what that means.


    Now, that said, if you're 16 or so, then Ti is pretty important. It prevents you from essentially turning into someone that looks like Robin Williams on coke. Something needs to act as an internal censor, and developing it is probably as easy as thinking about how bad some previous ideas where you didn't apply it were.
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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Quote Originally Posted by bellisaurius View Post
    Somehow, I find those contradictory. For me, being a better person is less about developing mental super powers, and more about learning to do right by others. Being the quickest thinker in a room is nice and all, but on many levels, it's just a party trick.
    When I think of being a better person, I mean a more balanced, less stressed, and more successful person. Less scattered, more focused... etc. I see now that I didn't word it that well, because typically being a better person means having a heart. Sorry about that.

    I already love people, and one of my goals in life is to be of genuine service to others in any capacity possible. I've been kicked around a bit in the past, and this might be part of the reason I value morals, integrity and acceptance. Don't throw stones at people, and try mentally walking in their shoes instead.

    I feel like I am my own worst enemy when it comes to accomplishment and becoming a better person. I could always do more, be more, have more and give more, if only I knew where to start and how to finish.

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenApple View Post
    I already love people, and one of my goals in life is to be of genuine service to others in any capacity possible. I've been kicked around a bit in the past, and this might be part of the reason I value morals, integrity and acceptance. Don't throw stones at people, and try mentally walking in their shoes instead.

    I feel like I am my own worst enemy when it comes to accomplishment and becoming a better person. I could always do more, be more, have more and give more, if only I knew where to start and how to finish.
    Sounds like you're already on the right track. While I'm sure that a lot of folks will talk about volunteering and all that, it's hard to find a good fit. I've always preferred the token methods, like making it a point to give people the time of day (ie if that homeless guy is looking at you, talk to him like he was in a professional setting at least), look for the random good deed (open doors, that sort of little thing, etc..), try to always draw out good conversations from people- help them to think out their own ideas, rather than feeding them yours. Things like that.

    As time grows on and you develop the habit of being decent, it becomes more automatic to do good when the big stuff comes up, and you get an extra boost of confidence when you're pursuing it.

    So, back to you, though. How do you feel you trip yourself up?
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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Quote Originally Posted by bellisaurius View Post
    help them to think out their own ideas, rather than feeding them yours.
    I'm currently working hard on this one, and it's incredibly difficult. When the connections start to fly, it seems natural to share, especially with creative projects. But constantly "improving" a project in the idea stage when all someone wanted was a sound board is a great way to kill the other person's enthusiasm for their work. I've done this too many times to count. :(

    As far as tripping myself up, I procrastinate, hop from project to project without finishing much of anything, and I feel like I rarely produce material that shows my full potential, and that's what I want to fix. I obsess over the details of a project, or I fritter time away on something else I'd rather do because I've somehow convinced myself that I can get a project done in only 1/4th of the time it'll actually take to do it. Or I make a simple project take eons because I am being too careful to compensate for the fact that I often make dumb mistakes due to zoning out and being absent minded.

    I want to accomplish and achieve status and success, but I'm not at the top of my game yet. I also want to grow as a person and do more with my life, but I have no idea where to start. I also have no idea how to go about developing Ti; anything that I think of seems more like it would develop Te instead.
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    The way I usually picture Ti vs Te (as an aux) is that introverted thinking is about critiquing your own ideas, and Te about dealing with the outside world in an organized manner. So, in that sense, I agree with you that what most people talk about for developing intelligence probably won't help you develop internal thinking,because your brains not dealing with a deck of cards or playing chess; it's dealing with all the twenty relationships that look promising that are coming out of Ne.

    Off that for a moment, though. From what I've seen here, it looks like most of us develop coping mechanisms for the more disorganized aspects of our nature. In my case, I've generally accepted that I'm going to make a collection of dumb mistakes, and that my accuracy rate isn't affected much by the time I spend on things. I'm better served by just going at my normal speed, hoping my teammates catch them, or that I finish ahead of schedule enough that I can redo things (usually the case). This works for me because I don't have a perfectionist streak, and I trust my abilities to work out in the end.

    Like yourself and most entps, finishing projects is always going to be hard. My solution has been to barrel into a project and ride that initial burst of energy as far as I can go with it. Go with a quick planning stage and get to the nuts and bolts to figure out where the real problems are. Hopefully I get far enough, and the rest of things fix themselves.

    Now, that stuff is mostly tactical. Ti, like I was saying is better thought of as critical thinking. It's the part that says "OK, that plan sounds good", or "Nice try, doofus" depending on the idea. It sets priorities "OK, the car coming down the street is more important than the funny song lyric you were just making up".

    What it doesn't do is make you excited or create love for something. I might enjoy a slog of critical thinking or report writing, but it's never going to be as cool as brainstorming or research. I think working on your feeling of enjoyment using Ti is probably the more critical aspect toward using it more effectively (self emotional manipulation being a tool I hope you already have) than simply exercising it.
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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    When you say 'better ENTP', I will assume you just mean 'better person'. In that respect, it depends on what you want to improve. If you want to improve your overall socialization, I would work on Ne. If you think your intelligence has been lacking as of late, I'd improve Ti. If you are considered too cold or say things which push groups away from you, I'd work on Fe.

    Or if you mean focus, I'd work on Si (or Se....not sure what the hell we use as our fourth....). The method to improving the individual functions is simply by putting yourself in situations where they will naturally be forced to be used more. If you need elaboration, you could ask me (or people who are FAR more qualified to answer you). Whichever.
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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Try to imitate an INTJ. You will fail at this, but the journey will help you.

    Try to imitate an ENFP. You will fail at this, but the journey will help you.

    Don't imitate any SJ's.
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    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by SlowPoke68 View Post
    Try to imitate an INTJ. You will fail at this, but the journey will help you.

    Try to imitate an ENFP. You will fail at this, but the journey will help you.

    Don't imitate any SJ's.
    I'd pay good money to see an ENTP doing both.
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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Quote Originally Posted by Hapalo View Post
    I'd pay good money to see an ENTP doing both.

    Like I say, doomed to failure. But quite a trip.


 
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