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This is a discussion on ENTP and Personality Disorder within the ENTP Forum- The Visionaries forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; How many ENTP's here have been diagnosed with a personality disorder? I am an ENTP 7w8, I have also been ...

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    ENTP and Personality Disorder

    How many ENTP's here have been diagnosed with a personality disorder?
    I am an ENTP 7w8, I have also been diagnosed with NPD/ASPD.
    As I read my type it read very close to personaity disorders such as narcissistic personality disorder and antisocial personality disorder(sociopathy).
    For some reason I have found that many forums confuse the true meaning of antisocial personality disorder as someone who is antisocial.

    Even if you haven't been formally diagnosed, is it something that you see in yourself?




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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Psychologist don't keep me around long enough to diagnosis me. I like to toy with them. What I have diagnosis myself with and had a few psychologist friends (+ a few other friends) tell me I have is OCD & ADD.

    I think I will get myself tested. I wonder if I haven't besides those.



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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    You don't really need a psychologist to tell you. Most are idiots in my opinion. Below are the DSM-IV criterias for aspd/npd.

    __________________________________________________ ____________________________________________
    NPD:

    1. Behavior or a fantasy of grandiosity, a lack of empathy and a need to be admired by others. As indicated by at least five of the following:
    1. Grandiose sense of self-importance.
    2. Fantasies of and preoccupied with beauty, brilliance, ideal love, power, or unlimited success.
    3. A belief of being special and unique and can only be understood or a need to associate with people of high status.
    4. A need for excessive admiration.
    5. An unreasonable expectation of being treated with favor or excepting an automatic compliance to her / his wishes.
    6. Will use others to achieve her / his goals.
    7. Lacks empathy.
    8. Believes others are envious of her / him or is envious of others.
    9. Contemptuous or haughty attitudes / behaviors.
    APD/ASPD:
    1. Since the age of fifteen there has been a disregard for and violation of the right's of others, those right's considered normal by the local culture, as indicated by at least three of the following:

    A. Repeated acts that could lead to arrest.
    B. Conning for pleasure or profit, repeated lying, or the use of aliases.
    C. Failure to plan ahead or being impulsive.
    D. Repeated assaults on others.
    E. Reckless when it comes to their or others safety.
    F. Poor work behavior or failure to honor financial obligations.
    G. Rationalizing the pain they inflict on others.
    2. At least eighteen years in age.
    3. Evidence of a Conduct Disorder, with its onset before the age of fifteen.
    4. Symptoms not due to another mental disorder.



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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Unless ADD counts, then nothing here.

    Although imho, I think a lot less children have ADD than are actually diagnosed with it... I think schools are just too boring and so children tend to become jumpy. Its pretty interesting that many of these kids diagnosed with ADD (as with me when I was young) can focus for hours on end on a tv or book, or legos, or anything else that interests them with entirely undivided attention, yet they have an attention disorder when they get antsy for being bored to death.



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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Oh, you don't have to tell me that most of them are stupid. I know this. That is why I play with them and it makes me laugh. :D As I'm going to take Neuropsychology and I have a few psychologist friends I trust than I'll get back to you.

    I have ADD + OCD.

    That first one really sounds three ish. It makes me lol. Sounds like you're a Psychopath. (Not a bad thing)

    There is also a high possibility that I am a tiny bit narcissistic & moderately schizo.



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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    I think my "disorders" are fantastic! Lol! Psychopath? Well maybe



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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    It was a compliment :) Trust me. I'm just as psychopathic :D except I have emoticons. They're just weird ones. Like laughing when I get hurt or at people running themselves over with their lawn mower on purpose. <3 Happening. It made me lulz crazy.



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    Unknown Personality

    I mess with my Psychologist. I told her that i wonder what human flesh taste like. She was so freaked out it was hilarious! I was apparently "bipolar". Im not even sure if she was serious



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    ENTJ - The Executives

    Lol. Self-diagnosis is the worst possible way to determine personality disorders. Ironically, there's a personality disorder associated with people who self-diagnose psychological disorder.



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    INTP - The Thinkers


    I read that ENTP's get misdiagnosed for all kinds of stuff when they are younger. I've also been to a pscyhologist/pscyhiatrist/neurologist. Three 'doctors' with three different diagnoses. I think Psychologiy is a new sicence, a very new science. There doesn't appear to be any consistency. My experience either that I'm dynanimically crazy or that each 'doctor' puts their own subjective brand of spin into their diangnosis. I thought that seeing a neurologist would give me a more scientific diagnosis and even took an EEG. Only to find that this doctor would talk to me about the bell curve, dinosaurs, evolution, answer his phone in the interview. In other words, he was a quack and better off exploring ideas than diagnosing them. The psychitatrist I saw was limited and one answer for everything due to her lack of depth. Did you know in the early 90's psychitatrists treated patients like zombies. They were zombists treating their patients like zombies and this is no lie. It's in my learning and cognition book. Not much has changed from my limited observations and that should tell all of you something. Now, the psychologist I saw gave me the diagnosis I gave her. You have to realize that she stays in business if I think I'm crazy. Now, think about this. She diagnosed me with my diagnosis. That is completely absurd and any real doctor would of kept completely away from that. By far, she was the most subjective and would link everything I told her to her patients and make what I think she considered apt comparisons. My problems were mainly existential depression among other things and I only found out this after I went looking for diagnosis. I think that psychology works for some people but for quite a few it does far more damage and results in misdiagnosis. Plenty of thinkers have had quirks and we used to be accepting of them, didn't we? But nowadays every other commercial leads us to think there is something wrong with us but this is not the case quite a bit of the time. Pharmaceutical companies make millions and millions(maybe billions?).

    ENP would get the diagnosis of ADHD but in reality, are they ADHD or just extraverted intuitive perceiving? I think it's a good question and wonder how many of these doctors really set out to answer it without imparting false classifications.




 
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