[hdbeck]

First of all, this is my first post on this site. It appealed to me due to how witty i found many threads, among other reasons.

I would like some input or theories on what anyone thinks my MBTI and Jungian cognitive functions test types should be, as well as any well renowned free tests to be found online(a good amount[75+] of well phrased questions). I will list some general information about tests I have taken already, as well as a brief description of how I would describe myself, as well as what others also tell me.

MBTI- Usually ENTP, but sometimes(esp. more recently)ENFP. Latest 2 tests gave these results(1st score/2nd score)-
Extroverted=84%/95% > Introverted=16%/5%
Intuition=100%/89% > Sensing=0%/11%
Thinking=57%/42% -roughly a tie- Feeling=43%/58%
Perceiving=95%/79% > Judging=5%/21%

My Enneagram type test had 7 at the top, and 5 and 3 tied in second just behind it.(which is, to me at least, interesting)



My self-description:
SOCIALLY:
Positive-I am and always have been a seemingly care-free guy, always making jokes and being the center of attention. I do not crave attention, in fact, I do not seek it. I have just always been able to talk to anyone about anything, and can get along with anyone. In serious matters, such as when one is wronged or offended by another, I hate emotionally driven confrontation, especially if it may become uncivil. I always try to encourage mutual respect and understanding, and rarely have I ever been faced with a difficult social situation.
Positive/Negative-I am also, on the other hand, love good-natured arguments even if they are completely useless and ridiculous. I tend to always be very quick witted and to mentally process things quicker than others. I often times frustrate others with my debate skills and can be very condescending. I sometimes have been known to completely run-over friends in a fun open-minded debate or discussion, rarely to the point of embarrassing someone by making them seem like "They are completely retarded"(not my words). I often take theoretical and philosophical discussion to the point of completely dissecting and destroying another view point by getting caught up, and remaining unyielding in

MENTALLY
(brief): I am as the doctors would say, "ADHD' as hell. I can become disinterested easily and "sitting around with mah bro's chillin'" is one of the worst ways I could think of to spend my time and would drive me crazy. I make many random, seldom realized connections between and become very eager to try to explain them to others. I often theorize about things and how they should be and how to be fixed, as well as how they have been corrupted by others. I have "extreme" views and certain aspects of Christianity, and see the modern day church as almost....well, completely sickening, all while maintaining what i believe is a deeper understanding that I do not simply take for surface value and has been spoon fed to me(not getting into that and not trying to start a debate). I had very high SAT scores, never had to study for a test in my life(although i hate trying to articulate myself in written words and writing papers in frustrating), and have always been told from parents of others and teachers that I am unexceptionably brilliant. Unfortunately, my apathy for the snails paced learning in school and general sense of never having anyone to talk to results in a lack of any work or assignments ever being done. In high school (Private college prep school), I brown-nosed my teachers into giving me A's and B's since I had great test averages(even despite having a 10% hw average my last couple years). I am NOT proud of this and it is one of those things I wish I would've applied myself to, if not for anything else, for large scholarships for college i would've received. I tend to take in a lot of information every second of every day, and even if i just hang out with people all day I am still mentally drained by bed time. I seem to take in a lot of info about people eye movements, body language, tone of voice, and other vague things, and like to use that as a part of what I think of them, since I usually can tell liars from honest men, and caring people from scam artists without a second of conscious perception. It's just there. I also tend to never know what i would like to do with my life, and have about 30 career paths I currently am considering. Sometimes I think so much I depress myself due to realizing certain things are virtually beyond redemption of my idealist goals in which i believe they should be changed to.

RANDOM OTHER STUFF:
I love making music on my computer and playing drums and singing. I like a whole lot of different music in one way or another, but can appreciate, in some sense, basically all music. I am very competitive physically and have always been very athletic. I love wrestling with my brothers who wrestled or trying to get them to box me, race me, or even play me in a chess match. I like writing songs and writing poetry as well( for my ----GIRLFRIEND----- :p haha) I can be very in touch with feelings and emotions, and have cried numerous times to my girlfriend in the past 10 months about various things. I tend to be very helpful when offering advice, and give people examples of personal experiences of mine that relate, and also explain to them how they have to look at it and what mind set to approach it as.

OUTSIDE CRITIQUES
My family(seven siblings, parents) and girl-friend like to tell me how I can take what they say and give strange examples of "how it can be used/construed" or something like that, and misconstrue it and basically at the end of a disagreement, I have convinced them that they are the ones who did something wrong, and I am the one who is right/ the victim. although they say they realize later that they were right and i convinced them other-wise(a lot of times i was indeed at fault). Also I am told that I am very confusing and often lose people when I am trying to explain something so, in my eyes at least, simple.


well, as you know know- I am long-winded as anyone and still didn't get my point's across as I wished(due to my articulation being sub-par in my writing ability. this is in no way who i am, just some examples of how I act sometimes, and is incomplete to say the least. This is merely a few areas that I thought would help in what i needed assistance with. Please do not judge things that you do not know based solely on that which has been previously provided in the paragraphs above.
I look forward to any insight on what classification I should be based on anyone's analysis. If anyone needs further information, feel free to ask. Thank you all in advance!

[tanstaafl28]

Welcome. I'm a newb here too. You seem to have a pretty good grasp of who you are and what your strengths and weakeness are. That's a really good start. I also have ADHD. Makes life hella more interesting.

[aef8234]

That. Is. Long.
I'll get to it, eventually.
Good luck with the feedback though.

[Startic]

Ok. . . I'm really the first to respond? Hmm. Well, I think I can tell you what you want to hear! You're an ENTP! If that is all you wanted to hear, stop reading here.

I mean how biased a story can you create? That one was fairly good. Were we describing the typical ENTP or you? I forgot half way through.

If you are lazy just read the bold text.

Now don't get me wrong. I think you very well could be an ENTP. The story you portrayed it seems as if you just emphasized the ENTP traits in each story and took out all the rest. To tell you the truth I've wondered many of times if I am even an ENTP. It really just takes immense amounts of introspection and really learning about yourself while being aware of what MBTI is.

I find the best way to find ones personality type, whether your own or another's, is to look at their cognitive functions. The ENTP is one of the hardest to see (IMO).

The Ne which is the dominant here, takes control of all the other functions in order to achieve what it wants. I usually refer to my Ne as 'Charles', my middle name, because it is almost like having another person in your head. You want to read? Charles has 1000 more interesting things to speculate on. Your Ne just will not slow down enough to let you focus on the reading. You want to talk to someone? Charles can think of 13 different ways to answer this question. Your Ne will have 100 more things to say than what you really should say.

Then comes the Ti, which isn't ever really noticed because it is introverted and Ne just uses it at its disposal. In the Ne>Ti axis the Ti acts as a filter to my understanding. The Ne finds almost every possibility to whatever is presented to it. If it is a question we think of all answers, if it is a problem we think of all solutions and so on. Then using Ti, it filters through all those possibilities and leaves you with only the plausible/probable ones.
This is one of the most unique traits of the ENTP is to be able to NATURALLY brainstorm quickly AND efficiently. Not to say that no other type can do this, they just have to learn it. This is something we, as ENTPs, develop naturally.

Those two aspects of the ENTP are the easiest to see and the most unique in my mind. Now obviously anyone is going to want to say they can do this because it is a spectacular thing to see in action. Don't let yourself get caught here. One of my good friends, an INFJ that first introduced me to MBTI and helped my determine my type, told me, "Everyone wants to have the positive traits of every type, go look at some of the negative traits, some of the things that an ENTP does when at his worst. If they fit, I think you are on to something." No one wants to have an excess of negative traits so you won't just say, "Oh that's cool, I do that to an extent." It's more like, "Eww why would anyone do that." Or hopefully, "Wow, I didn't know other people had that problem too!"

Other problems ENTPs have when typing:

The ENTP is said to be the most introverted extrovert. My INFJ friend explained this as, "I read that it's like a jar of sand, dirt, gravel, and water (various sized of rocks in a jar with water) during the day you get all shaken up by stimuli and by the end of the day you just need to let it all settle and get your head straight." I related to this a lot, every now and again I need my own 'Tyler Time' (not masturbation, that's right before my shower time! :P) I need to just be by myself and introspect a bit. Similar to meditation. I have noticed that when I go without this, during sleep overs with friends or when I'm staying with family and we are all crammed together I start to lose my quick wit and cleverness. Can you relate? Many ENTPs threads say 'Help me! xNTP', I believe the previous example is the culprit here.

Due to Ne controlling all your cognitive functions it is hard to tell which one is natural. They all get exercise in a sense, therefore you have a hard time telling which one is the most fit. This will make you feel like you use every function. This leads most ENTPs to the question of 'Am I an ENFP or ENTP' or for consistency, 'Help me! ENxP' which is the second most common thread name in the ENTP threads.