Isn't it funny how well we know how things work, and how well we can give advise, but how poorly we can follow that knowledge or good advise. I'ma keep looking back at this conversation to remind myself not to be an idiot and listen to my Fe talking when my Ne and Ti are both telling me something different (because I know damn well that my Ne and Ti are always right).
Odd how even the most unemotional of us can get messed up a bit when it comes to these types of games. I think it's the curiosity that does it. I'm kinda like "I know what's happening from an intellectual standpoint, but I wonder if I could actually learn how to play this game well enough to kick their asses ... of coarse I can, I can do anything. Let's give it a go". I'll admit I've gotten much better at it, but I always end up in the *face-palm* position. Truth is, as much as I'd love it to be different I'm a helluva sucker for those damn "F" types no matter how much I don't like them.
You're definitely right though. They are the ones who truly get hurt in the end. And we do convince ourselves that it'll all be different or alright. It seems that our honed skills with manipulation and rationalization are the easiest to impart on ourselves. It's prolly from years of overexposure through childhood and into the early 20's.