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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    My very own ENTP description

    Ok so here is something I wrote. I may have borrowed some ideas from other descriptions, but I thought it would be nice to have a description that stuck to describing, rather than including all of the technical socionics and such. Also, there were a few things I feel like I've found out about other ENTP's that other descriptions I've read have left out. Finally, I tried to keep this gender neutral, but for clarity's sake it just was easier to say "him" rather than "the ENTP".

    ENTP

    Clever, curious, funny and a meanderingly obsessive, ENTP's are like a disheveled mad scientist who actually took time to be social and charming, although not entirely mindful of things refined or polite.

    ENTP's have a range of interests (or shall we say "obsessions"?) that span like small, personal "quests completed" throughout the ENTP's past. It is as if they have "Oo Shiny!" moments, but those moments are intellectual pursuits and last longer. ENTP's have a unique ability to make connections with almost any two items or topics. Consequently, ENTP's obsessions can often be very random. When it does happen though, many ENTP's will become so engrossed in a particular subject, that they will skip multiple meals and chase that topic well into the night, making food, sleep and basic life functions a mere afterthought in the wake of their discovery or completion of a particular item of interest. One might conclude that the ENTP would waste countless hours studying a random topic, but to the ENTP, that random topic is more important than anything that might be going on around them at the time. Surprisingly, even when homework, friends, and relationships are put on the back burner in place of the "newest, shiniest intellectual toy", the ENTP seems to be very skillful at recovering what was neglected, once the ENTP's "challenge" has been completed.

    ENTP's are master's at coming up with multiple possibilities at once. Their thoughts explore every angle, through and through, while seeming to carry on only one viewpoint in a conversation. Consequently, ENTP's are very skilled at arguing, since they are exploring every facet of the topic and may be several steps ahead of their opponent. When debating, any input of knowledge is considered and weighed, although a less developed ENTP might ignore this if they consider the debate a challenge to be won, rather than a challenge to be right. In such case, the ENTP will sometimes toy with their opponent, walking them into logical traps for their own amusement. If that opponent is able to hold their own however, and even if that opponent somehow manages to win, the ENTP won't take it personally. In fact, the ENTP will most likely respect that other person and may even hold them in higher esteem.

    Socially, the ENTP views much in a formula fashion. They walk a balance between being socially spontaneous, and socially rehearsed. On one hand, they will use their quick exploration into every angle of conversation to answer back with creative, witty and often humorous responses, and the other hand, they might implore social strategies the ENTP may have analyzed and concocted beforehand.

    ENTP's are constantly studying their audience to see what kind of response they return. Depending on the response, the ENTP will analyze and tailor his or her approach, making the ENTP very adaptable. This can lead to some inner conflict then, where the ENTP seems overly confident in their abilities, and yet insecure in how others might picture them. Additionally, ENTP's view everything objectively. With little inner emotional or subjective responses to things then, very little offends or makes them awkward. Consequently, they may find it amusing to offend, or make others uncomfortable. This creates a second inner conflict, as the ENTP might value how others picture them overall, and at the same time lightheartedly be prone to offend or make others uncomfortable.

    To an ENTP, it's much better to be admired than in control. They have little desire to lord their ideas over others, and have a suspension dynamic when under a leader. That suspension lies in the fact that the ENTP doesn't seem to have a problem going with the flow of the leadership as long as it's heading the direction the ENTP wishes to go, but ENTP's have proven to be very able leaders when called upon and furthermore, have no problem (and a mischievous knack for) "stealing" the leadership role from a leader he disagrees with. Or, if that is proven to be impossible; they will break out from under the leadership position, usually getting others to follow.

    Optimism resonates with the ENTP. The idea of tackling the impossible is appealing to the ENTP, and hence will make the ENTP wish to be the first, or best at doing something. They will use this mindset then, to try and invent or figure out things that have never been done or thought of. Because of this optimism, many ENTP's will be under the impression that they can do ANYTHING if given enough time and effort and will thus be prone to coming off narcissistic or critical. Narcissistic because they think they are or will be better at something than anyone else, and critical because they are less likely to be impressed by something they believe they are capable of, if given enough time and effort. Combining optimism with a constant view of what could be, minor setbacks are seen as taking the steam out of the ENTP's adrenaline pumped ambition and be viewed with annoyance by the ENTP. Additionally, the ENTP is usually fully aware of what may stand in the way of his obstacle and may become irritated by those pointing out the negative, especially when it's obvious.

    Although an ENTP's focus is turned outward and to his environment, it isn't as much in a mindset of relating to people, as it is studying and analyzing them. Like any human being, connecting with people is important, but the ENTP's extroverted nature doesn't seem to stem from connecting, but rather from being in a setting where almost endless possibilities and endless social rabbit holes await to fill their curious nature. People can be regarded by the ENTP as one more personal challenge. Can I get this group to like me? Can I figure this person out, and once I do, will I be able to influence them or get them to admire me? If not, the ENTP can become frustrated and "fall back to regroup" and try again. This might translate as the need to be liked, but it would be more appropriately looked at as a social challenge that the ENTP incessantly tries to win, and once completed, can be replaced with another if the ENTP isn't well developed. In summary, a tendency of an ENTP is that he will skillfully work for your admiration, but after the ENTP has it, he is not nearly as concerned to lose it.

    It is not uncommon for an ENTP to retreat after a social setting, not because he feels drained, but because he feels energized by all of the new interactions and must take time to analyze and process all of the "data received". ENTP's are able to replay scenarios in their head and imagine what might have happened that could have improved the situation, to be logged away for use at another similar setting. Because of the optimism combined with this, ENTP's have been known to be able to spend hours in their head, creating ideal situations and conversations out of a situation that may have gone wrong or not ideal.

    If an ENTP is able to have his curiosity filled by something inanimate, he would feel no obligation or need to socialize. For instance, if computer programming happens to be on the mind of an ENTP, he could lock himself away for days figuring it out before he is too tired of being shut out from the world. An ENTP may even retreat into his own head IN a social setting if the social setting has no room for fascination or curiosity. It is because of all of this that most ENTP's and friends of ENTP's would be on the fence as to whether or not the ENTP is introverted or extroverted, as they can appear to be both.

    Although the ENTP often has trouble keeping his immediate surroundings organized, this isn't due to inability, as much as it is simply a focus on other things the ENTP will regard as far more important. Clutter on a desk is more a result of paying no attention to the aspects of his world that aren't directly related to his latest obsession. When it comes to his obsession however, things may very well be in order. For instance, an ENTP's computer may have every file neatly placed in it's corresponding folders and every song title in the library may be categorized and fully tagged, while his room/car etc might be in chaos. Cleaning the car might distract and waste too much time. Time he would be spending figuring out a computer programming language for instance. Once the ENTP finally does put focus on organization, many times he becomes obsessive about that as well, making every part of his room spotless, just to be neglected soon after the challenge is complete.

    Romantically, ENTP's are looking for an ideal mate. Their optimistic mentality of "shoot for the stars", combined with their restless soul and constant need for a challenge makes the ENTP slow to settle down. An ENTP might be constantly believing there are better things, right around the corner and consequently, may have had many "perfect options" that he let get away. These might haunt an ENTP, but still wouldn't slow him down much. An ENTP will settle down once he finds someone who he feels with meet the strict criteria, or steal his heart faster than he could complain.


    So that's what I have so far. Let me know if you find anything off here and I will edit it.
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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Very nice read. I recognized myself from various points. You mentioned ENTP development several times. Would you like to create a tree-like picture with description on how an ENTP might develop? I'd like to know where would I find myself standing from an alternative point of view.

    Anyhow, it was a very nice reading. Hope to hear more from you!

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Good description.

    I might also add something to our focus on the future. Something like:

    ENTP's live in a world of possibilities, for this reason they tend to focus on the future with little regard to the past. They will often have several plans or schemes running through their head at any given time. When they do switch focus to reflect on past events it's usually to review recent events to analyze them for future use, but occasionally they will reminice on past "quests completed". Once the past is analyzed and stored for future guidance they will generally drop it and move on. For them the past is only useful insomuch as it teaches us to better react to future events and dwelling on the past is generally an irritant. In relationships they tend to initially throw themselves in whole-heartedly. So long as the relationship holds prospect and possibilities for them, like everything else in their lives, they will remain dedicated to that infatuation.

    Some of this is possibly a bit redundant with what you've already said, but then again it might not be. This could be it's own paragraph or it could be broken up and inserted into various places within the description. I might also add that a healthy, mature ENTP would set aside his own feelings on things and act in a manner to meet the needs of others, but will not usually act on the wants of others until the necessities are met.

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    This sounds almost exactly like me!!
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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    That's a perfect description, I couldn't help but laugh throughout it because it's just amazing how people can really figure out who you are as a person by your thought process. I'm just very enthusiastic on Jung's functions and personality types and this has to be the best description that has every described me or any ENTP at that.
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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    This is awesome :). I particularly like your reasons for messiness, as I've never seen them written this way before and are very enlightening. But can I ask you a question:
    While I can see all viewpoints of an argument and therefore find it hard to choose sides like you said, I'm not particularly articulate. I think this is partly due to nerves (because I know that talking isn't my strong point) and also because I find it hard to express myself through words. It's like I understand what's going on (I am quite smart at school like a lot of ENTPs are/were here) but I can't quite put my finger on it enough to say it out loud. I'm good at picking up languages, as English isn't my first language (but it might well be at this stage cause I've forgotten my first language quite a bit, and I even think in English) but I use gestures, facial expressions, and tone of voice to communicate more than anything. It's very clear from my face about how I feel about something. I'm like an open-book in that regard. I do love debating but I get tongue-tied.

    I've never heard of any other ENTPs be like this, which makes me question whether I am actually an ENTP. You seem to know a lot about this Lucas, so I'm wondering what you think. Am I ENTP and am just weird at that, or some other type? I'm open for any observation and won't get offended :) Finding my type is my latest obsession :P
    Sorry for the long 'all about me' reply
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shambles101 View Post
    This is awesome :). I particularly like your reasons for messiness, as I've never seen them written this way before and are very enlightening. But can I ask you a question:
    While I can see all viewpoints of an argument and therefore find it hard to choose sides like you said, I'm not particularly articulate. I think this is partly due to nerves (because I know that talking isn't my strong point) and also because I find it hard to express myself through words. It's like I understand what's going on (I am quite smart at school like a lot of ENTPs are/were here) but I can't quite put my finger on it enough to say it out loud. I'm good at picking up languages, as English isn't my first language (but it might well be at this stage cause I've forgotten my first language quite a bit, and I even think in English) but I use gestures, facial expressions, and tone of voice to communicate more than anything. It's very clear from my face about how I feel about something. I'm like an open-book in that regard. I do love debating but I get tongue-tied.

    I've never heard of any other ENTPs be like this, which makes me question whether I am actually an ENTP. You seem to know a lot about this Lucas, so I'm wondering what you think. Am I ENTP and am just weird at that, or some other type? I'm open for any observation and won't get offended :) Finding my type is my latest obsession :P
    Sorry for the long 'all about me' reply
    This may or may not be on point, but a lot of ENTPs seem to get a type of social anxiety in our teen years. We tend to over analyze people and situations which causes us to be a bit hesitant and wary of our actions for fear of mis-stepping or overstepping some bounds. This poimt is interesting because it seems that stressed out ISFJs and immiture ENTPs kind of mimic each other in this regard. Either way most ENTPs seem to grow out of this in their 20s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by affezwilling View Post
    This may or may not be on point, but a lot of ENTPs seem to get a type of social anxiety in our teen years. We tend to over analyze people and situations which causes us to be a bit hesitant and wary of our actions for fear of mis-stepping or overstepping some bounds. This poimt is interesting because it seems that stressed out ISFJs and immiture ENTPs kind of mimic each other in this regard. Either way most ENTPs seem to grow out of this in their 20s.
    Thanks for replying :). You're right about the social anxiety for me. Although one would never think that I'm anything but a confident strong person, I am quite afraid of people's opinion. I'm not sure if it's just that though I certainly hope it is because I'm 18 and still have time according to your theory. But if you're correct than I'm still ENTP :). Do you have any ideas for how to improve and become more articulate? Bearing in mind that I'm going into my final year of high school and not in college yet.

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Quote Originally Posted by Shambles101 View Post
    This is awesome :). I particularly like your reasons for messiness, as I've never seen them written this way before and are very enlightening. But can I ask you a question:
    While I can see all viewpoints of an argument and therefore find it hard to choose sides like you said, I'm not particularly articulate. I think this is partly due to nerves (because I know that talking isn't my strong point) and also because I find it hard to express myself through words. It's like I understand what's going on (I am quite smart at school like a lot of ENTPs are/were here) but I can't quite put my finger on it enough to say it out loud. I'm good at picking up languages, as English isn't my first language (but it might well be at this stage cause I've forgotten my first language quite a bit, and I even think in English) but I use gestures, facial expressions, and tone of voice to communicate more than anything. It's very clear from my face about how I feel about something. I'm like an open-book in that regard. I do love debating but I get tongue-tied.

    I've never heard of any other ENTPs be like this, which makes me question whether I am actually an ENTP. You seem to know a lot about this Lucas, so I'm wondering what you think. Am I ENTP and am just weird at that, or some other type? I'm open for any observation and won't get offended :) Finding my type is my latest obsession :P
    Sorry for the long 'all about me' reply
    I think there are multiple possibilities for this and without knowing more about you, it would be hard to say for sure. I will certainly try to help though...with the stuff that I do know.

    First of all, I'm no expert. Not yet. In fact, this description was partially an experiment to see if other ENTP's had that much in common and it's been very fascinating as I have yet to have any real negative feedback, and many ENTP's have been able to relate, shedding light on the possibility that the MBTI may be able to say more about you than just how your functions combine. @affezwilling and @Istbkleta seem to be very good at this stuff too so maybe they can help as well.

    Anyway, I've always pictured an ENTP's core mindset...when you break it all down, to be like a constant stream of "Challenges" that they have to complete, with extreme curiosity to guide them from one challenge to the next. This "challenge mentality" applies to everything. At least for me. I had a challenge to win the approval of people. That is in essence, why I became articulate, easy to talk to and very good with people. This is where I feel as if ENTP's can look different. Our obsessions can be entirely random, so what we are good at can be very different.

    I feel as if it is possible for an ENTP to have a hard time expressing themselves, simply because they never took on that challenge. However, I would think it would be rare. I say that because ENTP's value how others view them and also because we spend a ton of time in our Ti to be able to pinpoint ant articulate why something is the way that it is. That is usually a challenge that is at least noticed early on but can take a while to begin to be good at. Many ENTP's are good in "certain crowds" and when it's good...it's like, charming lounge singer everyone loves in the movies good. And yet not very good in others.

    Another thing that you pointed out, is that you're still in high school. I feel like ENTP doesn't really get to show it's full glory till the 20s so that may weigh into this as well.

    I hope that helps!

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    ENTP - The Visionaries


    A type does not make people behave the same way to my opinion.

    I am having trouble accepting all those descriptions as consistently indicative of a person's behavior. I have a temptation to say this every time when I see somebody try to box in ppl based on a brief description online. But perhaps I am wrong.

    @Lucas
    Thank you for the kind words but I do not agree with you. I am getting my ass handled to me as we speak in my efforts to understand and apply Fi. Thus I have empirical evidence I do not really understand the functions.

    Good luck on your quest.


 
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