Will you date an ENTJ woman? Why or why not?

**Chipps** · 03-30-2012 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by Monkey King

I had the same thoughts on STR. Though I don't think it makes me uncomfortable--- I just don't think it's worth the drama ( it can get ugly when the guy starts developing feelings but you're still nonchalant about it.)

I think that way too with dating multiple people--- It just sounds tiring. Maybe I'm just lazy. lol Or just extremely exhausted from my last LTR. Anyway, I think what one learns from a LTR is richer than what is learned from a STR and that's probably why I prefer the former than the latter.

Yes, I forgot to mention time. Ugh. It seems like it would be so time consuming. I could be doing something more beneficial with my life.

**lightened** · 03-30-2012 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by KINGoftheAMAZONS

Yeah, I'm going to call bullshit on this one. I think it's a fallacy to automatically associate an 'objective rationality' with the "logic" of T's. They seem to apply their own subjective rationality when it comes to the way they think, and the way they solve problems, but that in no way implies that their logic is always objective, or that their logic naturally possesses the predisposition to objectivism or rationality. Such fallacies are nothing more than a covert way to marginalize men into the gender group that always thinks clearly, whilst women get put into the gender group that can never think clearly due to their "hysterical emotions". Female ENTJs struggle to be treated as equally competent individuals for same reason that every other woman struggles to be treated as equally competent: Because the pretentiousness of male superiority has automatically made the intellectual capabilities of all women, inferior.

men are rational beings compared to women.

science and different brain functions, activity and hormones back this up. it's not fallacious.
this does not mean that women are not capable of rational thought - they are.

**lightened** · 03-30-2012 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by Kingsley88

I totally agree with your point and wish I could be a bit more acommodating, but I simply don't have the patience. I've figured out that life is too short to waste your time on people who think their better than you. I find it frustrating to deal with women who always think their right. I'd rather use them for sexual purposes and be done with them.

just tell them that they are right. they will go off and do womanly things.

**bionic** · 03-30-2012 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by msbossypants

3. In my personal experience, i have found that comments like "entj women are masculine" generally come from men who have issues with their own masculinity. It really has nothing to do with us.

damn right, sista. Daaaaaamnnnnn right!

**lightened** · 03-30-2012 11:01 AM

@bionic
what about what his said makes him a bad guy?
i'm not seeing the correlation here. your comment is permeated with self-entitlement and self-absorption as if entp women are at the center of the universe. like men are desperate to be with them.

all we want to do is have sex with you. that is the truth. a grandstanding self-entitled approach won't make it easier for men to sleep with you. it's off-putting.

**bionic** · 03-30-2012 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by Kingsley88

Thanks for proving my point. This is exactly why I can't stand opinionated women. You think you're some how more desirable to me than you really are. I don't care about having a lovey dovey relationship with YOU. All I care about is getting sexual pleasure from you. If you aren't willing to put out..shut up. I don't need to hear your life story...

If you were actually comfortable in yourself and didn't feel the need have this antagonistic attitude toward women, I'm sure things would be a lot different for you. Obviously there must have been a woman that really victimized you in the past for you to be so hostile and sexist. Don't project it on other women just because you have insecurities over a past experience... there are plenty of great women out there who do not victimize their men.

You really need to change your attitude and stop taking it out on other ladies... 'cause it's unjust and downright shameful.

**Remington** · 03-30-2012 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by bionic

If you were actually comfortable in yourself and didn't feel the need have this antagonistic attitude toward women, I'm sure things would be a lot different for you. Obviously there must have been a woman that really victimized you in the past for you to be so hostile and sexist. Don't project it on other women just because you have insecurities over a past experience... there are plenty of great women out there who do not victimize their men.

You really need to change your attitude and stop taking it out on other ladies... 'cause it's unjust and downright shameful.

I have been hurt by women my whole life. That's why I find it hard to be trusting of them. The reason why I treat women the way I do, is because its safe for me. I don't want to get hurt any more. I'd rather avoid feelings and keep things sexual. It's nothing to do with women, and more to do with the fear of trusting them. I know I came across a bit too hostile, but these are my reasons behind it.

**TheBoss** · 03-30-2012 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by MsBossyPants

3. In my personal experience, I have found that comments like "ENTJ women are masculine" generally come from men who have issues with their own masculinity. It really has nothing to do with us.

I have mentioned this in the past. I still agree with it.

Originally Posted by Enfpleasantly

For the love of Pete, why am I more annoyed by these responses than the ENTJ women? Maybe you guys are just used to this? Haha!

Maybe. We (or at least some of us) simply have more effective ways to deal with vermin. Observe:

Originally Posted by Kingsley88

Thanks for proving my point. This is exactly why I can't stand opinionated women. You think you're some how more desirable to me than you really are. I don't care about having a lovey dovey relationship with YOU. All I care about is getting sexual pleasure from you. If you aren't willing to put out..shut up. I don't need to hear your life story...

Reply: (please note this is move no 1 is impalement; squashing is move no 2)

Result (warning: corpse)
http://realchristianity.files.wordpr..._cockroach.jpg

Sometimes we even LOL if the *CRAKsquishhhhh* was loud enough ^^

**TheBoss** · 03-30-2012 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by Kingsley88

I have been hurt by women my whole life.

Oh cry me a river and mail me @ 'whocares.none'

That's why I find it hard to be trusting of them. The reason why I treat women the way I do, is because its safe for me. I don't want to get hurt any more. I'd rather avoid feelings and keep things sexual. It's nothing to do with women, and more to do with the fear of trusting them. I know I came across a bit too hostile, but these are my reasons behind it.

I still think "tool" was a better description.

**Remington** · 03-30-2012 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by TheBoss

I have mentioned this in the past. I still agree with it.

Maybe. We (or at least some of us) simply have more effective ways to deal with vermin. Observe:

Reply: (please note this is move no 1 is impalement; squashing is move no 2)

Result (warning: corpse)
http://realchristianity.files.wordpr..._cockroach.jpg

Sometimes we even LOL if the *CRAKsquishhhhh* was loud enough ^^

...please don't squish me. I'm only a cockroach looking for love...ahhhh!