[ENTJ] ENTJs , icky subject , but how do you cope with the Fi grip? - Page 4

ENTJs , icky subject , but how do you cope with the Fi grip?

Hello Guest! Sign up to join the discussion below...
Page 4 of 4 FirstFirst ... 2 3 4
Results 31 to 36 of 36
Thank Tree42Thanks

This is a discussion on ENTJs , icky subject , but how do you cope with the Fi grip? within the ENTJ Forum - The Executives forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; Originally Posted by zosio913 Gracious this explains so much. My ENTJ buddy is in a rut and he recently got ...

  1. #31

    Quote Originally Posted by zosio913 View Post
    Gracious this explains so much.

    My ENTJ buddy is in a rut and he recently got upset with me for trying to banter with him. It really threw me for a loop, because our friendship was practically built on banter.

    He also started asking me about alcohol and its effects a couple of weeks ago (he was raised in a very conservative circle where alcohol was absolutely off-limits, so he's never touched the stuff despite being almost 30). I'm wondering if I should be concerned.
    I don't know if anyone answered you (if someone already did, just ignore this post), but I think it would qualify for a concern.

  2. #32

    This is interesting, I wonder how this differs between ENTJ and INTJ. I suspect for both types, it's some combo of Fi and Se. Notice how this description (and some others) alludes to both, but mostly focuses on Fi:


    ENTJs Under Stress
    When an ENTJ is under stress, they might go into what is known as a “shadow mode.”

    This causes the ENTJs four main functions to flip. When the ENTJ is stressed, they may want more time alone to sort their problems out. They may also become very emotional and sentimental during this period. They can get stressed out and become very overwhelmed. They could express this outwardly towards other people or just sulk a little bit and go into their withdrawal mode and just want to be alone.

    ENTJs are normally good at taking criticism constructively. But during this time they could be very sensitive to criticism and not want to listen. They may also become much more impulsive during this time. The ENTJ could develop bad habits like gambling, drinking, or taking drugs excessively. This is uncharacteristic of how the ENTJ typically behaves. In this state they can lose a bit of their self control.
    ENTJ Personality Description

    I've also heard the idea that as the stress gets worse, it goes down the function stack. So milder stress might lead to overusing your aux function, and only the most extreme stress leads to a complete takeover by your inf. The stronger function will keep deferring to the next in line basically. (I don't know how accurate this is, just an explanation I'm familiar with).

  3. #33

    Quote Originally Posted by ninjahitsawall View Post

    I've also heard the idea that as the stress gets worse, it goes down the function stack. So milder stress might lead to overusing your aux function, and only the most extreme stress leads to a complete takeover by your inf. The stronger function will keep deferring to the next in line basically. (I don't know how accurate this is, just an explanation I'm familiar with).
    This is fascinating. Where did you read about this? I'd very much like to learn more about how and why stress causes the inactivation of cognitive preferences.

  4. #34

    Quote Originally Posted by 737almosteveryday View Post
    This is fascinating. Where did you read about this? I'd very much like to learn more about how and why stress causes the inactivation of cognitive preferences.
    I don't recall exactly where I read it, may have been here:

    What Each Myers-Briggs Type Does In A Rut (The Rise Of The Inferior Function) | Thought Catalog

    Relying on one’s inferior function is only one of several unhealthy type manifestations. Prolonged stress can also bring about a dominant-tertiary loop, or cause an individual to develop an over-reliance on any one of their four individual functions
    For ENTJ:

    When they first sense a problem developing, the ENTJ will turn to their extroverted thinking for guidance. They will seek out a tangible solution that facilitates order in their external environment and they will immediately attempt to implement it. If this does not work for them, the ENTJ will place a heavier focus on their introverted intuition. They will withdraw from others and examine various possible courses of action in an attempt to determine the most efficient solution. If they are unable to come up with an effective solution at this phase, the ENTJ will turn to their extroverted sensing. Aware that they are under stress, the ENTJ may hone in on the specific details relevant to the situation and attempt to find some ‘clue’ in their external environment that they might have missed. If they are still unable to resolve the unfavourable situation at this point, the ENTJ is at risk of falling prey to their inferior function.
    There's a similar idea that minimal stress = overemphasis of the dom function, and high stress = overuse of inf. You can find descriptions of that here and here.

  5. #35

    I'm going to bring this post back for a moment because I've been dealing with an 'Fi grip' which occurs under intense stress, and now things have been going better! It got so bad that I thought I didn't have Fi, and instead I had Fe because it mainly affected how I interacted with people. I think I looked like an INTP for awhile, then INFP. Iunno.

    Perhaps this can be useful for other ENTJs dealing with really hard stress?

    Here's what an Fi grip looked like in my daily life (in the order that it happened in from when Fi grip started to the point Fi grip lessened and *** indicating how significantly it has affected me = * - no effect, *** - significant effect):
    ***1.Lack of foresight due to impatience, which lead to...
    **2.Acting impulsively because 1) mistaking it for productivity+usefulness 2) thinking it was a good option considering how it should have worked instead of considering how it actually works
    **3.Self doubt, or worry as opposed to being secure in one's ability, understanding potential and limits
    *4. Eating more than usual
    ***5. Feeling intense emotions -- emotion simmering for a few minutes, then exploding and remaining in that state for a a few minutes before feeling complete indifference or apathy as opposed to emotional stability
    *6. Not wanting to do anything

    I regarded this event as "brain versus heart"; you know exactly what you should do to help yourself, but unable to do it for whatever reason. It's like being trapped in your body while your mind tells you what you want to do.

    How I coped:
    *1. Exercise + Fiddling around with hobbies
    **2. Meditation
    **3. Being around friends + family - people you care about, even just for a bit
    ***4. Having a sense of humor
    ***5. Reflect on what you appreciate in your life + see some good, if there's any good, to be found

    It's helpful to be honest with yourself. It's understandable that seeing ourselves in vulnerable states as "weak" because emotion can be a little raw, and relentless. If it's a little easier to call it "strength", to admit to ourselves that we are not immune to problems, then that's okay. Eh, I suppose some things I took away from this event was:
    1) Be kind to yourself, forgive yourself, and allow yourself to make mistakes
    2) "Persevere" (as my other ENTJs have said!)
    3) Appreciate the little things

    That's it for now. Alright, have a good day~
    Scoobyscoob thanked this post.

  6. #36

    I focus on small victories to restart my Te when the inferior Fi grip gets me. That usually involves a lot of volunteer work at the local homeless shelter to activate my Te-Ni and reinforce a sense of purpose, impact, and effectiveness in my actions. The inferior Fi grip feels like running out of gas and spinning the wheels so having a sense of accomplishment, no matter how small, builds up the momentum that I've lost.
    furryfury thanked this post.


     
Page 4 of 4 FirstFirst ... 2 3 4

Similar Threads

  1. [ENTJ] 30+ ENTJs: Your Advice to Younger ENTJs?
    By stiletto in forum ENTJ Forum - The Executives
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 01-26-2016, 11:25 PM
  2. [INTP] Love, Romance, and All That Icky Stuff
    By Xayna in forum INTP Forum - The Thinkers
    Replies: 50
    Last Post: 04-28-2011, 08:28 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:30 PM.
Information provided on the site is meant to complement and not replace any advice or information from a health professional.
© 2014 PersonalityCafe
 

SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0