[ENTJ] ENTJ males, your context/background & view on women when dating?

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    ENTJ - The Executives

    ENTJ males, your context/background & view on women when dating?

    I'm selfish, every moment of every day, I work towards bettering myself & advancing myself. Over the years, I've found that bringing people up with you, is better for you in the long run. I can adapt & be strategically/tactfully nice as a means to an end... but, by no means is it genuine. People seem to stick around & it's refreshing to have their company, I guess. I make friends with them, it's good to have social circles. I work, I study, I go to the gym & do my own thing.

    Every so often... I have to engage in acts of compulsive behaviors of passion, to feel alive. Living life on the edge, doesn't always regard to women.

    Carnal sex is a big one.

    What's your view on women when dating/romantically?

    I see women as an escape/distraction. An avenue to release my passion upon. It isn't just the sex either, experiencing their elegance & beauty is also appealing. Seeing them before & after, then seeing them losing themselves in sex, is where it really gets interesting.

    My emotions don't grow towards a person easily, I need to spend time with them. They need to grow on me & I need to appreciate having them in my life over time.

    Relate?



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    I think 'disgusting' is the only way I can describe this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Alpha View Post
    I think 'disgusting' is the only way I can describe this thread.
    This thread DOES seems rather misogynistic to me, especially the "sex" portion of the opinion on women.


    Women are equal with men, and should not be objectified nor sexualized. There's a reason why the feminism movement is taking place, and that is because our society needs to understand that women=men and not men>women.

    So yes, I agree with you there on the 'disgusting is the only way I can describe this thread'.
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    INFJ - The Protectors

    Not surprising considering who the op is.

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    ENTJ - The Executives

    Quote Originally Posted by seare825 View Post
    This thread DOES seems rather misogynistic to me, especially the "sex" portion of the opinion on women.


    Women are equal with men, and should not be objectified nor sexualized. There's a reason why the feminism movement is taking place, and that is because our society needs to understand that women=men and not men>women.

    So yes, I agree with you there on the 'disgusting is the only way I can describe this thread'.
    I agree, I don't objectify women.

    Sex goes both ways.

    Just because they are good looking doesn't mean i'll have sex with them. Some things are a major turn off.

    Women allow me to release my romantic side. Experiencing them & them experiencing me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterD View Post
    I agree, I don't objectify women.

    Sex goes both ways.

    Just because they are good looking doesn't mean i'll have sex with them. Some things are a major turn off.

    Women allow me to release my romantic side. Experiencing them & them experiencing me.
    Except your main points are based off of sex anyways so you're sexualizing women in general . Make sure to word your opinions better.
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    INFP - The Idealists

    Quote Originally Posted by seare825 View Post
    This thread DOES seems rather misogynistic to me, especially the "sex" portion of the opinion on women.
    Not really. He's just honest. And as long as it's mutual and consensual I don't see it's much of a problem. It could and should be better and more meaningful, but some people want it that way and you'd be wrong to view women as some angels.

    I know a bunch of women who engage in all sorts of behaviors and think of themselves as victims or innocents/normal/acceptable while they wrought it too.

    Quote Originally Posted by MisterD View Post
    Sex goes both ways.

    Women allow me to release my romantic side. Experiencing them & them experiencing me.
    Just make sure that they really know what they're getting into from the very start, ok? :]
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    ENTJ - The Executives

    Quote Originally Posted by MisterD View Post
    I see women as an escape/distraction. An avenue to release my passion upon. It isn't just the sex either, experiencing their elegance & beauty is also appealing. Seeing them before & after, then seeing them losing themselves in sex, is where it really gets interesting.

    The context of the words you provided reveal a great deal to me about you, actually.

    The view "on" women, that "they are an escape/distraction", an "avenue to (insert action)", an experience, "seeing (observing them)"... in all contexts, you have refered to us as a passive receiver of your perceived actions. We are literally the object of your sentences and attitudes.

    No matter how positive the stereotype, putting women on this pedestal, is still stifling their attempts at equity. Get Me Off This Damn Pedestal | the fatal feminist

    Don't mistaken this for mixed messages, don't mistaken this for an attack. Just take this as an opportunity to look into the schema you currently hold about the "context of women" in your life.

    I can guarantee you that women certainly don't see you as a majestic creature.
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    I won't call this thread disgusting. OP isn't making claims that "all women are a certain way" or "women should be treated like sex toys and nothing more." Instead, he's opening up his mind to us and asking if anybody can relate to what he feels.

    However, I do not relate, and you are objectifying women, @MisterD . Engaging too much Se (or at least doing it in the wrong way) can be dangerous, physically and socially. As far as I see it, developing lasting relationships with loyal friends and partners is a much better investment than momentary pleasures. The basic fear of an E8 is "Of being harmed or controlled by others", so I can understand how that may translate into your methods of rarely being genuine when communicating with others, and using relationships as a means to an end. Perhaps you can begin seeking healthy relationships as ENDS rather than a means. Without those relationships, your Fi might get bottled up, and release more often in destructive ways, such as fits of rage, or so I would guess.
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    ENTJ - The Executives

    Thinking back to how I was before my marriage if I wanted to have sex with a female I told her and made it clear prior to that it was JUST sex. If they tried to do romance stuff afterwards I put an end to it immediately and bluntly only being an asshole if they were an extreme case of wouldn't go the hell away. On the other side of things if I was genuinely interested then I was just as straight forward as when I just wanted sex. Once I commit to a relationship then that was that. Cheating is never considered no matter the reason. If I consider cheating on you I'm probably just gonna break it off.


     
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