[Grim]

I do find that male and females of the same type act differently, which makes sense.

Why does that make sense to you?

For the other stuff you said... There's this fella at work, who is neither a 3w4 or ENTJ... Which perhaps is the point, perhaps not. Anyway, he has this way he wants others to treat him, or at the least view him. Nothing wrong with that... But as a person he lacks substance. He doesn't in and of himself in any real way do or accomplish things great enough to warrant the reactions he wishes to receive. So he makes things up, or makes things part of his identity that are not really him. He tries way too hard to come across as smart, or cool. Anyone with any sense at all can see it is all a show... Definately not "genuine". Or is it?



Whether you agree with or like what he's doing he's trying to fill a need. He's not enough "person" to get the attention he wants and he hasn't accepted that within him self. Barring that he's not willing to put in the effort or time required to actually achieve the things that will give him the attention he craves. Whatever his flaws he has a real need that he can't fulfill "honestly". Alien though this may seem to some... It's 100% who he is. What you see is the real him: someone who would lie in an effort to feel whole. Much like a person who eats to fill a void. That is the real person. All 300lbs of them.

[adagio12]

I don't like how they are inconsiderate towards others (you can lose friends that way) and their arrogance turns me off.

I used to have a ENTJ friend who I was good friends with in high school... most of the time. She would be inconsiderate of me in many situations where I considered dropping her as a friend, but I still kept her as a friend regardless because I am the type of person who values my friendships.
However, when we went to college together, something stupid happened between us over a guy where we were in a "triangle" situation (and I didn't like him in that way, but she did and that guy liked me). Ever since that situation, she became all nasty and b**chy towards me. She would tell people who I don't know about nasty things about me that aren't true and make me look like the bad guy. She would compete with me and determine to be better than me in anything. If we were to talk the situation out and come to an understanding, we would still be friends. Since she would rather cut people out of her life and stay unreasonable, I decided she was not worth it and decided to drop our friendship. I made many attempts to reach out to her, showed that I care for her.. but all I get back were cold responses. If we were to meet at a mutual friend's gathering, she would act like I was invisible and not acknowledge me. Trying to reconnect with her was like trying to reconnect with a nasty ex. Too much drama.
I've also heard she has issues with other friends she had in the past and members of her family, due to her personality.

I don't want to upset all you other ENTJs that manage to run into this posting. Perhaps not all ENTJs have the same personality or are as unpleasant as her.

[atoaster]

So I'm going off about this now because my brother happens to be ENTJ...at least I'm pretty sure he is, judging by his actions and his perceived thought process. Basically it comes down to this:

-(Agreeing with adagio12) he is utterly inconsiderate of anyone's needs or wants but his own. I am a fairly easygoing person. It takes a lot to irk me. But his consistent lack of regard for others' emotions/investments drives me nuts. Everything always revolves around his schedule and his time, and the rest of us (his family) are left hanging until he has solidified his plans. We are expected to make every accommodation to ensure that he gets his way--which means throwing our own expectations and well-laid plans out the window until he is 'ready'.
-He is extremely needy. It seems he requires constant approval and recognition of his successes to function normally. Not in the sense that people will take pride in his accomplishments (although he absolutely loves this, coming from my parents) but that they might praise him or admire him for them.
-He has a terrible temper. When he does not get his way, or things frustrate/sadden/confuse him, the immediate response is lashing out. He is not necessarily physically reactive (although when we were younger he was much like this) but he will verbally lash out (basically just start slinging shit) at anyone/thing who gets in his way. He also assumes that lavish gifts, hammy apologies, and smiles are all it takes to make up for past wrongs.

I had to get this out...another family holiday ruined this week.

[Aubbs]

I am so glad that ENTJ's have brought soooo much sunshine to all these peoples lives, and they really out done themselves.

[Thomas60]

I am so glad that ENTJ's have brought soooo much sunshine to all these peoples lives, and they really out done themselves.

Ah, sorry for that *pulls up pants*

[Aubbs]

Ah, sorry for that *pulls up pants*

No need to be sorry, these forums are highly annoying but also amusing...

[Libber36]

Sometimes a little too intense and intimidating but I still really like them ^^

[Meritocrat]

Even when you put in a good word for them, they're prone to truculence and defensiveness. :o

[Enfpleasantly]

They always want to know what time something will be....what time is your appointment? What time are you going out next week? What time are you going to be back? This is difficult for someone like me who never knows what time...until the last minute :p

[rejectedreality]

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