[Beverly]

How you have a new revelation every morning and can't wait to tell someone else about it so you actually understand it. So you talk and talk and talk. And then when you let me get something in, you look at me like I'm crazy or interrogate me so intensely that everything is an argument. Or you dismissively and condescendingly laugh at how strange what I said was in a way that reveals you misunderstood what I was saying, because you're stereotyping and oversimplifying for efficiency, AGAIN. But you don't give me the time to tell you that. Nope. When you interrogate me and I pass your tests, I've given you another revelation, and the cycle just starts over. There is no time for anything else. And all this literally while I cook your food and clean up after you because you can't be bothered with menial tasks, like a child that can't even seal a food container (at all, you just throw it in in an open bag) and then complains about how fast the food goes bad.

This is how at least 6 hours of every day of my life is.



If this is just an unusually narcissistic person, let me know. But he's definitely ENTJ, and it makes sense knowing how he works. I mean, I know I'm self-centered too, but he makes me look selfless.

Obviously, I'm at the end of my rope with this ENTJ. I do have to say though that he genuinely appreciates my perspective on things, he just assumes he knows what it is after half a sentence. He also knows by now that he does all of this and seems to feel genuinely bad about it, just not bad enough to change at all.

If there is a way out of this while maintaining our friendship (which I still find beneficial, just not beneficial enough at this point) please let me know. I don't know what else to do because we've talked about it, he knows I'm an introvert's introvert and he understands what that means, but this only leads him to apologize while he does exactly what he always did.

[Istbkleta]

You know what, I read Le Prince and I never gave it any thought what achetype he was describing there as the perfect ruler. I suppose it would make sense for it to be an ENTJ but could you elaborate on that thought? Give some examples of some of the things he wrote about and how they match up with us.

Unfortunately elaborating on that thought would require too much resources while at the same time does not offer me anything of value.

Suffice it to say, many ENTPs have expressed their desire to be more like ENTJs in their ability to get "things done". ENTPs seem to see the value of an ENTJ approach objectively but unable to enact it in themselves the same way because of our subjective functional preference. The author is believed to be an ENTP. He failed to follow his own advice, even though in his own subjective logical Ti world that advice was the most logical. Irony.

I am certain you will recognize the natural ease with which an ENTJ can follow the advice given.

[Ozymandias]

Unfortunately elaborating on that thought would require too much resources while at the same time does not offer me anything of value.

Suffice it to say, many ENTPs have expressed their desire to be more like ENTJs in their ability to get "things done". ENTPs seem to see the value of an ENTJ approach objectively but unable to enact it in themselves the same way because of our subjective functional preference. The author is believed to be an ENTP. He failed to follow his own advice, even though in his own subjective logical Ti world that advice was the most logical. Irony.

I am certain you will recognize the natural ease with which an ENTJ can follow the advice given.

Ease indeed. I've incorporated the concepts that Niccolo spoke of in his fantastic work!

[Transcendence]

How you have a new revelation every morning and can't wait to tell someone else about it so you actually understand it. So you talk and talk and talk. And then when you let me get something in, you look at me like I'm crazy or interrogate me so intensely that everything is an argument. Or you dismissively and condescendingly laugh at how strange what I said was in a way that reveals you misunderstood what I was saying, because you're stereotyping and oversimplifying for efficiency, AGAIN. But you don't give me the time to tell you that. Nope. When you interrogate me and I pass your tests, I've given you another revelation, and the cycle just starts over. There is no time for anything else. And all this literally while I cook your food and clean up after you because you can't be bothered with menial tasks, like a child that can't even seal a food container (at all, you just throw it in in an open bag) and then complains about how fast the food goes bad.

This is how at least 6 hours of every day of my life is.

If this is just an unusually narcissistic person, let me know. But he's definitely ENTJ, and it makes sense knowing how he works. I mean, I know I'm self-centered too, but he makes me look selfless.

Obviously, I'm at the end of my rope with this ENTJ. I do have to say though that he genuinely appreciates my perspective on things, he just assumes he knows what it is after half a sentence. He also knows by now that he does all of this and seems to feel genuinely bad about it, just not bad enough to change at all.

If there is a way out of this while maintaining our friendship (which I still find beneficial, just not beneficial enough at this point) please let me know. I don't know what else to do because we've talked about it, he knows I'm an introvert's introvert and he understands what that means, but this only leads him to apologize while he does exactly what he always did.

You're such a bitch.
If you don't like him, then just forget about it.

You're completely free, yet you complain like a helpless bitch.
If there's a problem, then fix it. Don't complain like a bitch that can't solve your own problems.

[Beverly]

You're such a bitch.
If you don't like him, then just forget about it.

You're right, and I know you're right, which is why I don't actually hate him. We had actually just had the worst fight I've had in my life and I saw an opportunity to vent. Next time I'll start a diary. I know if I don't express my problems, I have no right to hold anything against him.

However, if any ENTJ wants to know how he can appear to an uptight INFJ bff, there you go.

[Monkey King]

You're right, and I know you're right, which is why I don't actually hate him. We had actually just had the worst fight I've had in my life and I saw an opportunity to vent. Next time I'll start a diary. I know if I don't express my problems, I have no right to hold anything against him.

However, if any ENTJ wants to know how he can appear to an uptight INFJ bff, there you go.

You cook for him?????? Can you be my BFF? lol

I used to live with 3 other guys. I know how to clean and know how to cook some dishes. When we all first moved in everyone looked at me and I laid it all out, " I'm not your mother. I'm not your girlfriend. Get over your thought into thinking of me doing chores."

We had family dinner once a month (especially NBA season). I cooked dinner and we alternated because I told them that would be the only way they'd get me to participate in their family dinner chill outs.

Cut a deal with him-- it should be easier him being an ENTJ and the fact that he's a guy. I find it's easier dealing with guys than girls during college.

[Beverly]

Cut a deal with him-- it should be easier him being an ENTJ and the fact that he's a guy. I find it's easier dealing with guys than girls during college.

See, I would, but he's just bad. He doesn't actually clean the dishes and he can't cook for shit. Same with cleaning in general. It's a classic housewife scenario where even when he offers, it's like dirty old dad that's going to half-ass everything. Which is fine, it's good life practice. And there's so few meals with serving sizes for one person.

[Antares]

As an ENTJ myself, here's my take on why people hate em:
- They say stuff like "Why has this gone wrong?" or "How can we improve it?" and everyone else feels like it's a personal attack. Mostly they feel asif we're as subtle as a brick.
- They are ballsy, so they'll jump in somewhere saying something nobody dares to even speak out loud. They usually get their way too, because *not* responding to it would be even more embarrassing.

Best part about it: we're not even noticing it until later.

[Transcendence]

We like tabus because it gives us a chance to break the norm.

[LadyAqua]

As an ENTJ myself, here's my take on why people hate em:
- They say stuff like "Why has this gone wrong?" or "How can we improve it?" and everyone else feels like it's a personal attack. Mostly they feel asif we're as subtle as a brick.
- They are ballsy, so they'll jump in somewhere saying something nobody dares to even speak out loud. They usually get their way too, because *not* responding to it would be even more embarrassing.

Best part about it: we're not even noticing it until later.

HAHAHA! So true.

Here's an awkward dinner date conversation between my boyfriend (ENTJ) and me (ENTP).

Me: *glancing through menu* Ooooh. The fettuccini alfredo looks really good... wait no... I think I want the lobster. Hold on...I see... no... WAIT! THEY HAVE DUCK?? OMG THEY HAVE DUCK!! :0

Him: Then order it.

Me: Hmm... I might not like duck... I've never tried it. ._.

Him: Fine. Then don't order it.

Me: I wasn't going to! O_o;

Him: *facepalm* OFMG. Decide already.

Waitress: Are you two ready to order? :)

Me: Well, not quite y-

Him: NO.

ENTJ come off as impatient and pretty harsh a lot of the time. lol