[Shrubber]

Thank you so much for posting this. I just reread 548 at least 4 times. So, so relatable. Even more accurate than INTP description. And that says quite a bit.



Obviously I've only known about this for about 10 minutes, but reading it was just mind-blowing. I went and highlighted all the relatable parts and it's just... a mass of yellow. lol


This is something I wrote a few days ago, almost word for word:
"...[I'm stuck in] that feeling where you think you've just decided nothing can be analyzed, but then you say that you've disproved that nothing can be analyzed because the very fact that one can come to a conclusion that nothing can be analyzed proves that you have some faith in the human powers of analysis. I just go off on this circle where I keep disproving myself..." and then, reading over the last weeks, I've gone on about how I get stuck in those dialectic circles, and how disconnected I feel because I'm so obsessed with finding all these answers and analyze everything (5), but I can't turn to traditional sources, and often think that even reading other people's viewpoints will narrow the possibilities I'll see (8), and am constantly, constantly changing my thoughts, and a constant theme throughout my life is that I'm trying to create myself and nothing fits (4), and I even get disconnected from my peers' viewpoints because I question things like shaving my legs and social rituals of politeness, which I then neglect to do, and I come out a social reject. Oh, and I started this writing journal project because I really don't get myself at all (that's why I became interested in personality typing in the first place). I love Nietzche because I found him relatable in his viewpoint, even though I don't agree (right now) with many of his ideas.

So, I think I'm 548... maybe.
Sorry this is longish. I'm rather excited.

I think this is my type, but i also think it is sometimes described in overly negative ways. I don't think i'm egotistic at all, not socially at least (but maybe in a theoretical way, as i can sometimes discard other people's theories). I also think that these "emotional outbursts" must be unhealthy variants, because these kind of things are very much about what kind of values you have and how you are raised. It takes a lot for me to get angry, and the only times i honestly can say i have "lashed out" is against bullies. In fact I quite enjoy being confrontational with bullies, online or in the real world.

I very rarely get angry, too. I have the mood-swing one, but my anger is always directed towards myself. It's never anybody else's fault, there's always something wrong with me. My emotional outbursts take the form of self-directed breakdowns.
I don't view myself as selfish; I don't demand others cater to me, but I dislike catering to others. In my ideal world, I have as little needy bonds/obligations with other people as possible. Other people see it as selfish, but in my head it's preferably a reciprocal independence (lol) and therefore not selfish.
I am a bit egotistic. Intellectual narcissist and all that.

[aconite]

I am the Messenger (now I can hear Iggy Pop singing in my head, and instead of "I am the passenger", it's "I am the messenger").

And of course, it says cool things about me, so it must be true :D

This tritype is the most creative type on the enneagram regardless of which type is in charge. This creativity may or may not have artistic talent but always has a sense of aesthetics. All three crave authenticity, depth and individuality

YES

784: Direct and intuitive 7. Most independent, original and creative 7. Can be moody. Most non-conforming, and intense 7.

YES

784--visionary, powerful and aesthetically brilliant, always ahead of the curve

YES!

(Singin' la la la la, lala lala...)

[Hazrat]

I'm also the messenger archetype. Figuring that out was so important for me.

[madhatter]

I'm also the messenger archetype. Figuring that out was so important for me.

I'm glad. What do you think your core is?

[Julia Bell]

Hmm... My brother is definitely something of a rarity. He's an INTP with a 5w6 core. I'm positive his tritype is 5w6, 4w5, 8w9. He's got what my sister and I jokingly call a "classic case of genius". This consists of a heavy dose of introversion, intelligence, and bi-polar disorder (actually diagnosed). Seems odd, but it appears there is no getting around that this is his tritype. There is no way there's any Threes, Twos, Sevens, Sixes, Ones, or Nines in there. O_o

And I figured out my sister is a 4w3. Her tritype is 4w3, 1w2, 6something. I have been seriously looking into this as well. I couldn't believe she was a Four at first. Yet it fits all to well...

And seeing the descriptions here confirms this for me.

I'm a 6w7 middle child surrounded by rarities. @_@

[madhatter]

Hmm... My brother is definitely something of a rarity. He's an INTP with a 5w6 core. I'm positive his tritype is 5w6, 4w5, 8w9. He's got what my sister and I jokingly call a "classic case of genius". This consists of a heavy dose of introversion, intelligence, and bi-polar disorder (actually diagnosed). Seems odd, but it appears there is no getting around that this is his tritype. There is no way there's any Threes, Twos, Sevens, Sixes, Ones, or Nines in there. O_o

And I figured out my sister is a 4w3. Her tritype is 4w3, 1w2, 8w9. I have been seriously looking into this as well. I couldn't believe she was a Four at first. Yet it fits all to well...

And seeing the descriptions here confirms this for me.

I'm a 6w7 middle child surrounded by rarities. @_@

How are they rarities?

(P.S. My brother is a 6 middle child too)

[Julia Bell]

@madhatter - Ah, referring to the "Fives, Fours, and Eights are the most rare". But aside from numbers and statistics, I suppose I wouldn't call them "rarities". Joking around a bit there. ^^ I don't think any type is more "special" than another. :)

Edit of hilarity: Lol. My sister isn't a tritype of 418. Not possible. XD I knew that. O__O -looks down at notes- Ah. 6. 416.

[madhatter]

@madhatter - Ah, referring to the "Fives, Fours, and Eights are the most rare". But aside from numbers and statistics, I suppose I wouldn't call them "rarities". Joking around a bit there. ^^ I don't think any type is more "special" than another. :)

Edit of hilarity: Lol. My sister isn't a tritype of 418. Not possible. XD I knew that. O__O -looks down at notes- Ah. 6. 416.

Oh I see. Well, yes, I don't really believe in type rarity either. I don't think that statistics will ever adequately explain the distribution of personality types. :)

[Hazrat]

There's also the propensity for a particular culture to reinforce a type. I have noticed that when I am in a group setting 8s seem to be scarce but there are typically a lot of 9s or 6s. Of course if you are in a therapeutic or wellness type setting I see a lot of 4s.

[Julia Bell]

Drat. O__o

I was so confident I was a 6-1-2. But now I'm wondering if I'm a 6-1-4. I've been looking into Two a lot recently, and while I can relate to wanting to help others and being warm, etc, I can't really find myself relating to the rest of it. I can see Four being my Image fix too, now. I often feel shame that I don't live up to my expectations... then again that could be the One side of me speaking. Still, how can I know on this matter whether or not Two is my image fix or Four? @madhatter, any magical words of advice? XD

^ This is all probably going to end up just being me running around in circles. When I start analyzing, I begin to over-analyze. When I over-analyze, I can make myself unsure of absolutely anything and everything. ^^'