[The King Of Dreams]

Okay, so even though I may be an ENFP, I STILL get confused about the Cognitive Functions. Ne Fi Te Si. I wish there were examples of Ne being used. If you can explain AND give examples of these functions..... You will win HUGE brownie points with me. I just want to understand myself better..... My fellow NF's understand how important that is to me. So I open this up to ANY type. I might put this thread up on another sub-forum to see what other types my say. I thank you all in advance for your help. I AM an ENFP, I just want to learn more of the mechanics of an ENFP. (It's kinda like knowing how to drive and operate a car, but not knowing all the inner workings of the engine and transmission) See how I put it into a example? If it can be explained like that, oh! How wonderful would THAT be! (Similes, metaphors and hyperboles are welcome)

[zadude]

Couple of quick Google searches:
"Extraverted iNtuiting involves noticing hidden meanings and interpreting them, often entertaining a wealth of possible interpretations from just one idea or interpreting what someone’s behavior really means. It also involves seeing things “as if,” with various possible representations of reality. Using this process, we can juggle many different ideas, thoughts, beliefs, and meanings in our mind at once with the possibility that they are all true. This is like weaving themes and threads together. We don’t know the weave until a thought thread appears or is drawn out in the interaction of thoughts, often brought in from other contexts. Thus a strategy or concept often emerges from the here-and-now interactions, not appearing as a whole beforehand. Using this process we can really appreciate brainstorming and trust what emerges, enjoying imaginative play with scenarios and combining possibilities, using a kind of cross-contextual thinking. Extraverted iNtuiting also can involve catalyzing people and extemporaneously shaping situations, spreading an atmosphere of change through emergent leadership."

Socionics : Extraverted Intuition as Leading Function - This one seems to be VERY accurate.

[The King Of Dreams]

Couple of quick Google searches:
"Extraverted iNtuiting involves noticing hidden meanings and interpreting them, often entertaining a wealth of possible interpretations from just one idea or interpreting what someone’s behavior really means. It also involves seeing things “as if,” with various possible representations of reality. Using this process, we can juggle many different ideas, thoughts, beliefs, and meanings in our mind at once with the possibility that they are all true. This is like weaving themes and threads together. We don’t know the weave until a thought thread appears or is drawn out in the interaction of thoughts, often brought in from other contexts. Thus a strategy or concept often emerges from the here-and-now interactions, not appearing as a whole beforehand. Using this process we can really appreciate brainstorming and trust what emerges, enjoying imaginative play with scenarios and combining possibilities, using a kind of cross-contextual thinking. Extraverted iNtuiting also can involve catalyzing people and extemporaneously shaping situations, spreading an atmosphere of change through emergent leadership."

Socionics : Extraverted Intuition as Leading Function - This one seems to be VERY accurate.

Thanks, man! That helps. I want to be able to explain this as if it were second nature to me. I want to know myself better. So, from the explanation of Ne, it sounds a lot like me. Let's move on to Fi, shall we?

[zadude]

Thanks, man! That helps. I want to be able to explain this as if it were second nature to me. I want to know myself better. So, from the explanation of Ne, it sounds a lot like me. Let's move on to Fi, shall we?

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It is often hard to assign words to the values used to make introverted Feeling judgments since they are often associated with images, feeling tones, and gut reactions more than words. As a cognitive process, it often serves as a filter for information that matches what is valued, wanted, or worth believing in. There can be a continual weighing of the situational worth or importance of everything and a patient balancing of the core issues of peace and conflict in life’s situations. We engage in the process of introverted Feeling when a value is compromised and we think, “Sometimes, some things just have to be said.” On the other hand, most of the time this process works “in private” and is expressed through actions. It helps us know when people are being fake or insincere or if they are basically good. It is like having an internal sense of the “essence” of a person or a project and reading fine distinctions among feeling tones."



" Feeling people makes decisions based on feelings, so the Introverted Feeling function allows a person to know what they value. It is the ability to see through others and know what they are really like as if they had an internal radar. When it identifies a person with similar values there is a desire to connect."


introverted feeling | The Third Eve



It's more of an ethical compass that comes from within, rather than emotion related. It's about having your own value system and sticking to it, rather than say sticking to the value system of society which is more Fe related. Fi is very in tune with the self, but it will also sometimes exhibit as Fe since Fi still wants everyone to be comfortable and harmony can still be an aspect of it (I just find Fi is more likely to break the harmony if it becomes necessary). From my understanding (as an example), Fi is more likely to stand up for someone even if it's not socially acceptable whereas an Fe user may find that less than acceptable and go a more socially acceptable route to do so.

[The King Of Dreams]

I DO use Fi. I have had my moments of breaking up harmony when it was a dire need. (It kinda goes against my type 9 grain)

[MuChApArAdOx]

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It is often hard to assign words to the values used to make introverted Feeling judgments since they are often associated with images, feeling tones, and gut reactions more than words. As a cognitive process, it often serves as a filter for information that matches what is valued, wanted, or worth believing in. There can be a continual weighing of the situational worth or importance of everything and a patient balancing of the core issues of peace and conflict in life’s situations. We engage in the process of introverted Feeling when a value is compromised and we think, “Sometimes, some things just have to be said.” On the other hand, most of the time this process works “in private” and is expressed through actions. It helps us know when people are being fake or insincere or if they are basically good. It is like having an internal sense of the “essence” of a person or a project and reading fine distinctions among feeling tones."



" Feeling people makes decisions based on feelings, so the Introverted Feeling function allows a person to know what they value. It is the ability to see through others and know what they are really like as if they had an internal radar. When it identifies a person with similar values there is a desire to connect."


introverted feeling | The Third Eve



It's more of an ethical compass that comes from within, rather than emotion related. It's about having your own value system and sticking to it, rather than say sticking to the value system of society which is more Fe related. Fi is very in tune with the self, but it will also sometimes exhibit as Fe since Fi still wants everyone to be comfortable and harmony can still be an aspect of it (I just find Fi is more likely to break the harmony if it becomes necessary). From my understanding (as an example), Fi is more likely to stand up for someone even if it's not socially acceptable whereas an Fe user may find that less than acceptable and go a more socially acceptable route to do so.

Nice posting, bravo =))) Its the first time i see the description of Fi as the third eye, very interesting. Especially this part :

In women, especially, introverted feeling tends to come off as cold because the strong feeling component is introjected rather than sent outward by projection onto others.

Ah, now i understand why i'm such a cold bitch at times ; D

[SenhorFrio]

I think Ne is more like a metal detector than a magnet, detecting the hidden rather than grasping what is close and clear.

Fi is like an emotional microscope, desecting the intense subjective emotions and sentiments

[The King Of Dreams]

What's interesting about me is that I can sense the emotions of others. It can't be hidden from me. To me Sensing is like a person looking at a brick house..... They have to come close to the house and look through the windows to know what's going on inside... Or they have to ask the person to come out..... Intuitives are like people standing outside of a glass house..... They can just stand back and see a lot of what's going on. They aren't as oblivious to the emotions that others try to mask. I hope that was a good explanation of how I see.

[MuChApArAdOx]

What's interesting about me is that I can sense the emotions of others. It can't be hidden from me. To me Sensing is like a person looking at a brick house..... They have to come close to the house and look through the windows to know what's going on inside... Or they have to ask the person to come out..... Intuitives are like people standing outside of a glass house..... They can just stand back and see a lot of what's going on. They aren't as oblivious to the emotions that others try to mask. I hope that was a good explanation of how I see.

Yes, this is a good example. Also try and view it like wires. Ne can see everything from every angle, without having to spin our heads around. Once we gather all the data, we take from it everything that makes logical sense. We might change our minds once we receive new data, because everything is possible. Sometimes things just click instantly, the pattern doesn't go astray. Other times Ne brings in data so fast that it doesn't give us enough time to sort it out before throwing more and more data our way. Its like our mouth can't keep up with our brain. @Sanskrit explained it perfectly in a post in the INTJ forum. Btw, i miss reading your postings Sanskrit :/ Sifting threw it all can take time depending on the interest also. Sometimes i tell my Ne to fluck off, i'm not interested in that particular piece of information :D

[The King Of Dreams]

Yes, this is a good example. Also try and view it like wires. Ne can see everything from every angle, without having to spin our heads around. Once we gather all the data, we take from it everything that makes logical sense. We might change our minds once we receive new data, because everything is possible. Sometimes things just click instantly, the pattern doesn't go astray. Other times Ne brings in data so fast that it doesn't give us enough time to sort it out before throwing more and more data our way. Its like our mouth can't keep up with our brain. @ Sanskrit explained it perfectly in a post in the INTJ forum. Btw, i miss you Sanskrit :/ Sifting threw it all can take time depending on the interest also. Sometimes i tell my Ne to fluck off, i'm not interested in that particular piece of information :D

Thanks :) You're a gem. I get it. Sometimes my brain moves so fast that my mouth stutters and can't keep up. It's frustrating!