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ENFP villains?

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#1 ·
What do you think about ENFP Villain.

What will he look like? What is his motivation? What made him dangerous?
 
#7 ·
Yea.


The thing is, with myself and the ENFPs I know (I can't speak for all of course) but we are only any good at manipulating/charming/selling an idea if we truly believe in it. That being said, I love manipulating people, and I force myself not to do it simply because it's childish, and at 20 I really should not be doing it anymore XD
 
#9 ·
Idk, if somebody whine, critize, despise, try to bully etc... When they do it first time, it is ok. Many ppl say that it is hard to make me angry, but it they do it day after day, week after week, I may move to darkside.
Then I can be real asshole, I start whine back, and I whine a lot every time I see him until we almost start to fight each other. Also if we play like ice-hockey I will try tackle him outcold. ( and I did)

That happend me sometimes and I didnt enjoyed it, I think it is against my nature etc.... I hate conflicts.
I think "villain" enfp is also unhealthy enfp. I dont think many enfp:s can be villains because we are feelers, If I cheat or hurt somebody I dont feel good when I go to sleep. :sad:

I dont agree with etherealuntouaswithin, I think Darth Vader is better example of ENFP villain.
 
#10 ·
A person who has strong values and belifes about things and how they should be expressed. However the expression actually leads to evil acts. The key issue would be a flawed motivation and value system, or flawed conclusions about how they should express their values. They would use all their charm and persuasive skills to achieve their ends, not seeing they were twisted.

Potentually somewhat egocentric and self severving, thinking their view was the only correct one, hennce justifying manipulating people for their own ends.

The charicter who when all hell breaks lose and the destruction the hero warned of acures, shouts: I never meant for this to happen, I was trying to bring about a utopia!/ end world hunger!/ bring about world peace!/ proctect us from the alien threat!

I would think some sort of politician...maybe a leader who initiates genocide, but because they genuinely belive the other race is dangerouse to their own.

Or maybe just like Blair from Gossip Girl...I like to imagine if I went to the dark side and had huge sums of money, that would be the general result.
 
#13 ·
Oh yes ^-^ ENFP villains...I wonder, Lestat from Interview with the Vampire for he uses his charm and seemingly affable personality to tempt Louis. Like an enchanted rescuer in the dead of the night, he promises to save Louis…end one life, to begin another, coloured to be, more fascinating and grand. With nothing but black and hollow emptiness left in his life, Louis clings to the vampire and offers his blood, his life, his mortal death to be born again immortal. Ah, what devious deceptions…for once the glittering charade is seen through, Louis can see that the one who made him has tortured him and left him a life of ’eternal damnation’. The blurs between Lestat’s darkness and carefree attitude I find intriguing…to be so carefree that nothing at all matters? Shall we side with this villain, who ends up driving along the highway in the reporters convertible, cackling away heartily and listening to music. It sounds a little familiar, aside from actually taking human victims… well…hmm. :p

Yes there is victory for the ENFP villains in the end, because don't they always end up darkly laughing after luring their prey past the sparkling world, straight into the terrible depths where the monsters lurk? With such character, nothing is ever black and white...maybe their captured victims were indeed lost and needed special saving. Maybe they are now free...in the villains mind.
 
#15 ·
:crazy: my grandma. She acts all nice but in truth gets under peoples skin and makes them feeel guilty, she twists what people say, manipulates behind their backs...she does this sooo damn well too. It always comes out in her favour, the way she wants it....it's disgusting to watch. She is subtle like a demon infested fox.

ENFx gone wrong is a dangerous foe to deal with. Reading the patterns and anticipating her moves is crucial, as well as the skill to quickly read and understand ppl.
 
#17 ·
The only way an ENFP could be a villain is if they dud not realize what they were doing or were totally tripped out. I just can't see it. They would have to go "T" in my opinion... I mean, ENFPs can come up with some pretty snappy comebacks but only if you upset them... I don't know...
 
#29 ·
Hitler is usually typed as INFJ there is a discussion about it on site but I forget where.

also the joker is really type less, DC has come out and said from day to day he can go from Mad genius to raving mad dog to harmless clown. I'd argue that he is impossible to properly type, and that if you were to type him you'd have to type him for every different appearance.

Remember The Joker is Batman's greatest foe because he can almost match Batman's level of intellect, he has been shown to be tactical, ingenious, cunning, well-thought out and even unfeelingly sociopathic just as many times as he's shown to be the carefree pun-swinging randomized clown price of crime. In some appearances his humor is even just a theme that not even he finds funny, or attempts to make funny. Sometimes he's even stoic, remember He's not the type of character who if he sees a person in an alley way knows what he's going to do to them, he may give you all the money in his pockets, he may pass you by without a word, but he's most likely going to kill/kidnap/torture you though. I've seen him fit ENFP, ENFJ, ENTP, INTJ, ISTP, ESFP, ESTP over many different appearances.

Harley on the other hand, is just a really twisted ENFP.
 
#30 ·
Venom from Spider Man. From the comics, not the films. (Eddie Brock is INFP, though).
Kefka from Final Fantasy VI is an ENFP gone REALLY wrong.
Jack Frost from The Invisibles.

I think the ENFP villain is either a Nemesis (we're as good as bringing others down as we are motivating them, if we want to), or an Anarchist (which is subjective if that's evil or not).

Some historical ENFP (possibly fictional) figures like William Wallace and Robin Hood were portrayed as villains by those that were getting their asses kicked by them.

Marquis de Sade was also an ENFP that many people percieved as evil.

In addition, since the Fi is all about telling right from wrong, if the ENFP starts hating people, percieving them as evil and assumes that the right decision is to erradicate and destroy everyone, then god help you.

Don't forget that morality is a pretty subjective thing. Actually most things are.
 
#31 ·
I am kind of opposed to the idea of a cute, bumbling fool of an ENFP villain. Maybe it is because I can see the darker side of myself and it's not something cute and lovable. I could see myself going evil, and I can see myself making it work for me. I think an ENFP would be a very confident and am extraordinarily different villain.

I always did favor some of the villains over the heroes. And I remember once when someone asked my if I had superpowers or something which side would I be on and I said most likely neutral or villain. And they asked why and I said, "Well it would all nice and dandy to be a hero but when it comes down to it a villain usually has a reason for being evil, and it's usually a good one."

I think that if an ENFP was scorned and put down hard enough they would retaliate in a terrifying manner. Think of it this way, if you had very high morals and a positive outlook on life and you metaphorically 'fell from grace' would it make your fall THAT more devastating. To those who have lived in the 'light' and been good most of their lives ad then suddenly were cast into darkness, I would imagine they would be a more terrifying evil, a more destructive and subtly evil. Something like the phrase, "the bigger you are the harder you fall"

So I don't think I'd like to see an ENFP villain, I am afraid they might be more dangerous then a normal, average villain. For all the power we have to do good, we have that much and maybe more to do evil.
 
#32 ·
While I consider him a personal inspiration and revolutionary for the most part many see him as terrible/despicable villian, so I'd like to note one of my favorite favorite ENFPs, Che Guevara. I am currently reading a book on Che titled "Che Guevara: A Revolutionary Life" and everything about him screams ENFP to me from his charming, adventuresome, extroverted attitude as a youth to his responses in situations to his ideals and beliefs. Here are some of his quotes for reference:

"There, in the final moments of people whose farthest horizon is always tommorow, one sees the tragedy that enfolds the lives of the proletariat throughout the whole world; in those dying eyes there is a submissive apology and also, frequently, a desperate plea for consolation that is lost in the void, just as their body will soon be lost in the magnitude of misery surrounding us. How long this order order of things based on an absurd sense of caste will continue is not within my means to answer, bu it is time that those who govern dedicate less time to propagandizing the compassion of their regimes and more money, much more money, sponsoring works of social utility."

"In fact if Christ himself stood in my way, I, like Nietzsche, would not hesitate to squish him like a worm."

"Let me say say, at the risk of seeming ridiculous, that the true revolutionary is guided by great feelings of love."

"If you tremble with great indignation at every injustice, than you are a comrade of mine."

"Better to die standing, than to live on your knees."

"We must struggle everyday so this love of humanity becomes a reality."

"Shoot coward! You will only be killing a man!"

^ These all point out strong Fi values and Ne visionary attitude influencing him and his decisions

"The revolution is not an apple that falls when it is ripe. You have to make it fall."

Other quotes like this point to extrovert. Basically Che works as your symbol of your basic ENFP anti opression/tradition attitude but taken to the point of physical and violent revolution against such forces.

Also I feel like an egotistical fool for mentioning this outside the thread already made but Lucifer could be an ENFP and he's a very famous villian haha. http://personalitycafe.com/enfp-forum-inspirers/61265-lucifer-enfp-not-meant-offend-any-means.html
 
#33 ·


Charles Manson is also an ENFP, Fi and Te gone wrong with the ENFP manipulative abilities to control others and their emotions.
 
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