[Indigo Aria]

Oy..THAT is where I am guilty of wasting too much of my time. In fact, when I am stuck doing that, it is others who usually have to step in and tell me "You are not going to understand it. You are not them." Meh, I hate when they remind me of that. But it's true. It is in that way, I have to "let it go". But it's hard for me. I really want to understand why someone would intentionally hurt another. It's hard to let go of the tendency to analyze bad behavior. Perhaps this is my way of still attempting to see the good in someone. I try desperately, under all costs, to find the hidden jewel inside someone. And yeah, it sets me up.

I am guilty of this also. I'll have entire weeks go by where I don't get anything done because I can't stop analyzing someones behavior. I can never accept that someone is just bad...there has to be a reason. Unfortunately I do this all internally and people just think I'm being lazy, so I never get told to snap out of it.

[pinkrasputin]

I can definitely relate to this. *nodnod* And you know what? Despite it sometimes getting me into bad situations where I can get taken advantage of... I still don't consider it a bad thing to do. I guess I'd rather look for the good in people rather than turn the other way and block myself off from all people who take a bit more.. "effort". Whether or not this is more good or bad, I don't know, but this is just the way I am. :3

Now, what about analyzing your FRIENDS? (I'm thinking more IRL than online here) I actually don't put too much effort into analyzing my IRL friends (and certainly no effort into trying to figure out their MBTI type), because I like to experience them as if I knew nothing about psychology - I don't want it to be the relationship between a scientist and a lab mouse, I just want it to be the relationships between two close friends. ^^

Yeah, I agree. Analyzing my real life friends makes me feel less close to them. When I do it, it is when I am not understanding something they did. Or something they did upset me. But it is better for me to analyze them than to get worked up about a contradictory value. Especially since I have a tendency to also want to "teach" or recruit them to my way of understanding. So instead, I slow down and I analyze where they are coming from and why they think the way they do. I think friendships are more important than "my value is better than yours" battles. But I still have my moments...

I am guilty of this also. I'll have entire weeks go by where I don't get anything done because I can't stop analyzing someones behavior. I can never accept that someone is just bad...there has to be a reason. Unfortunately I do this all internally and people just think I'm being lazy, so I never get told to snap out of it.

Wow. I just dubbed you an Honorary ENFP. I could have just written this whole post. I mean, I do say it out loud but then I've also learned to do it when I run by myself. No one knows....


Matter of fact, I spend my time doing so much analysis of other people's behaviors and "slowing down" before I react, I'm beginning to think that most people I finally Te Bitch Slap, almost certainly had it coming.

[Indigo Aria]

Wow. I just dubbed you an Honorary ENFP.

You know I'm stealing that now

I could have just written this whole post. I mean, I do say it out loud but then I've also learned to do it when I run by myself. No one knows....

Matter of fact, I spend my time doing so much analysis of other people's behaviors and "slowing down" before I react, I'm beginning to think that most people I finally Te Bitch Slap, almost certainly had it coming.

My problem is dealing out a Te bitch slap. my Te is just a little too weak I always figure out what to say when it's just a little too late. And they do have it coming, haha. I know when I do get to actually do that, it was for someone doing something truly wrong.

[WMDistraction]

I want to see if these lyrics describe a particular mood ENFPs get into somewhat often. To me, it's that mix of repressed feelings and faked confidence for the sake of others, which so many people (it seems) mistake for arrogance.

The party's alright, I might wanna stop drinking
What were we talking about?
My body won't tell my mind what I've been thinking
Before it's outta my mouth

The minute I get upset, that's it, it's over
I'm already outta the room
Why can't I just forget that?
I know what's gonna hurt
There's not much else I can do

I'm breaking my own rules
Becoming someone else
Everybody says I oughta get over myself
I'm thinking I can't move
If there isn't somewhere else to go

I've probably made mistakes that I've forgotten
It's all ambiguous now
I'd be willing to take the shape of what you wanted
I could just figure it out

I'm breaking my own rules
Becoming somone else
Well everybody says I oughta get over myself
I'm thinking I can't move
If there isn't somewhere else to go

I'm breaking my own rules
Becoming somone else
Well everybody says I oughta get over myself
I'm thinking I can't move
If there isn't somewhere else to go

It's changing my issues
As far as I can tell
Well everybody says I oughta get over myself
I'm thinking I can't lose
If there isn't somewhere else to go

[Lilsnowy]

Ooh...WMDistraction, I like that. I have felt that. Felt trapped, adjusting to others and not defining what I needed to be for me. Wanting to run away. I'm getting over it, but in the process, people don't recognize me... now that I'm me, and not a reflection of their expectations.

[Ignus]

I love our logical argumental side, I think we use it for scientific/political/religious discussions as well. I do like the image of the NF pulling out the scientist glasses, taking a deep breath, and then systematically and logically laying out exactly why he/she dislikes the offender's comment, the root cause of this discomfort, our own personal take on the issue, and kindly but firmly put down our iron clad argument with the weight of a dwarf star.

It's freaking awesome. I only know one other ENFP, and we're pretty much the exact same IQ, so I can't speak for all of us, but I think we fall into that category of the lively intelligent witty conversationalist a lot of the time, and if no one around us gets our multi-layered jokes/puns, we giggle merrily to ourselves.

[Indigo Aria]

Ooh...WMDistraction, I like that. I have felt that. Felt trapped, adjusting to others and not defining what I needed to be for me. Wanting to run away. I'm getting over it, but in the process, people don't recognize me... now that I'm me, and not a reflection of their expectations.

Wow. this post really hit me. It's been the story of my life for about the last two years. I spent the first 18 years of my life just trying to be what was expected of me, which I guess isn't really out of line for a kid. I've stopped doing that, and honestly, I think I've lost a lot of peoples respect, since I'm not who they once knew anymore. Me from 3 to 5 years ago is someone I hate now, and me now is someone that old me would have hated. I really don't care anymore though, I can't keep living lies.

[The Great One]

Wow. this post really hit me. It's been the story of my life for about the last two years. I spent the first 18 years of my life just trying to be what was expected of me, which I guess isn't really out of line for a kid. I've stopped doing that, and honestly, I think I've lost a lot of peoples respect, since I'm not who they once knew anymore. Me from 3 to 5 years ago is someone I hate now, and me now is someone that old me would have hated. I really don't care anymore though, I can't keep living lies.

Yeah this kind of calls out to me as well.