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ENFP: Oh My God... I just don't care!

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Hey guys,
This is a pretty typical problem for ENFP by the sounds of it, but I'm going to whine about it anyway because it'll kill a bit of the time I'm trying to waste.

Basically I'm studying photography in Newcastle, and while I love photographs and images and art, we've not actually been TAUGHT anything in the last two years by our lecturers; it's a fine arts course so they see that as an excuse to see us once a fortnight to check we've been doing work ourselves.

Basically my problem is, I'm in the third and final year - last semester, only a few months left to go... and I just don't give a shit anymore. I usually (without really trying because let's face it I'm shit when it comes to studying unless it's something I want to learn about or do) get around the 60% or above mark (2:1), but this year last semester I was estimated a third, I mean I was already pissed off with not having been taught properly but this was just a smack in the face. Anyway, I'm to subjective to decide whether it's because my work was shit, or I didn't do enough, or that I had a shouting argument with most of my lecturers last semester (I was working pretty much full time as well as I was broke) and that they were kind of punishing me for that (I know that they shouldn't, and I probably shouldn't think that, but if I'm meant to stand there and believe that people are giving subjective marks on students work without any bias (AT ALL), then I can't expect that the marks dont get affected by opinion).

Anyway so this semester by the sounds of it, I've pulled my work up a fair bit, but here's the thing; I havn't done any extra work, all I've done is change my subject to something I know that they'd appriciate more, and I've been friendly and smiley to them, and suddenly all is forgotten? Sigh. Basically this just reinforces the idea that my degree is ... well barely a degree at all.

Anyway the point is I'm sat here, desperately hoping to get a 2:1 or above, and I'm thinking about my work, which is across the room staring at me. I stare back at it thinking "I should start that", then I realised I just don't care anymore.
I mean I will complete my degree, I have to for my own personal goals, but I've got to that point where I can't put that little bit extra in anymore because it's not there anymore. I'm sat here waiting for the calender to move past that graduation date (which I'm so disorganised I don't even know when it is), and while I want to do well, I just don't want to be involved with university anymore. I'm sick of it. I feel like I'm trapped with nothing to do; I can't search for a job, because it'll mean I'm to overloaded again and will probably actually GET a third. I can't go out and have fun because I have £40 to last until April the 19th when I get my final student loan installment. So I'm just sat here in my room staring at a blank screen and researching things that ACTUALLY interest me.

God I can't wait until I finish my degree and have no reason to be anymore, because then I have infinate options open to me and I can choose in which direction to head next. My housemate was telling me that I'll be sad when it's done as it'll be a huge anti-climax, but I dont even want or expect a climax anymore, I just want it done, and after that it can pass unnoticed as a whisper through a foghorn for all I care.

FFs... where am I meant to be? Why do I always feel like something is missing when I have everything I ever wanted on paper in the room with me.
Epic epic fail.


Anyway.... fail. Sorry, just felt the need to complain a little there.
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haha, I like it! Thank you for sharing your feelings with us.

It sounds like you are in a similar predicament I had in high school. I was very smart and I grasped the material immediately, but I thought it was all bullshit because I was judged based on my homework and not my actual knowledge. I felt that if I had learned the material it should be reflected in my grade.

Whenever I had a legitimate question, the teachers would just shoot me down, for example wanting to know why the area of a triangle is 1/2 base times height. To this I would invariably receive the answer "Because that's the way it is" or sometimes "Explaining it would be too high level math for you to understand" My answer: FUCK YOU! Who the fuck are you to tell me I won't be able to understand something? Try to fucking teach it to me first before you decide I'm too dumb to grasp it. Eventually I found I had to just stop caring because it was all total bullshit, the entire system was not designed to teach you anything but rather simply to mold you into direction following mindless drones who do as they're told and don't think.

http://www.maa.org/devlin/LockhartsLament.pdf

^that's a great example of how I feel about the state of math education in k-12 schooling right now. It's a very interesting read, and I think someone on this forum actually linked it to me originally.

What I eventually discovered is that I actually have a passion for the subject, it was just squashed by my instructors for many years. I think the same thing has happened to you, you say it's what you wanted to do, but now you've just stopped caring. You feel like the instructors have somehow sullied photography in your mind, as agreeing with them is a much better way to get good marks than being true to yourself and trying to express something real.

You wonder about the validity of your entire degree if someone can just bullshit their way through it by giving the teachers what they want rather than trying to put real effort and emotion into their work.

My advice to you is this. Endure, and know there is a light at the end of the tunnel. It might make you feel dirty and unclean to pander to the instructor's wishes, stifling your own creativity, but you know you want this degree. And once you're out of the mire of bullshit, you will be the one in charge of your own destiny. If an organization does not like your photographic style, too fucking bad for them, go find one that will appreciate you. There's always going to be a segment of people who are going to like your work, as long as it's good and it speaks from the heart.

Unfortunately, none of those people are in charge of your grade right now, but once you're free to seek them out of your own free will, being appreciated for what you're really trying to do with photography will re-ignite the passion that currently lingers buried and unseen beneath the surface.
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Yeah I'm feeling the way Ignus has described in my math class. But I'm convinced my teacher has a problem with me.

So one day I was talking about government run health care to a fellow classmate and then my teacher screams "WE DON'T NEED TO BE TALKING ABOUT THAT!". I looked at her and gave her a confused look because the class period had not even begun and we are free to talk, and this was an intelligent conversation about current issues.

Then we took a chapter test, I did not get finished in time so I asked "hey I have to finish 2 or 3 problems can I stay after class or school and finish them?" her reply was "NO, you should have studied more" I turned in my test thinking ok its her policy

But then we took another chapter test and a kid didn't get done and I overheard him and the teacher talking. this is how it went "Sorry Mrs.(insert name here) I didn't finish" but then she replied "Oh its no problem just stay after or come in tomorrow and you can get those done!". I stared with my jaw dropped in disgust.

Also the question thing happened. "you wouldn't be able to understand that" and "thats the way it is"
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http://www.maa.org/devlin/LockhartsLament.pdf

^that's a great example of how I feel about the state of math education in k-12 schooling right now. It's a very interesting read, and I think someone on this forum actually linked it to me originally.
Thank you so much for this link! Great read, especially for someone who loves both math and ranting endlessly about the painful state of modern education. And isn't the very last sentence, "We could all be having so much more fun," just so totally the motto of the ENFP?
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spread that link around! The more people who read it the better!

I agree stick, that is pretty much the ENFP motto XD.

and to samy, don't worry it gets better in college, find a good professor who will take time to answer the "why" questions and you'll be golden
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