[dulcinea]

Even though in another thread I said that whenever I get close to my ENFJ friend, I incorporate a form of Fe into my mindset, my mind always snaps back to Fi-dom hood in the; the Fi has a way of coming bad with a vengeance.

I'm going to experience how it feels from my point of view, I'm not sure if my fellow INFPs will agree.



On good days:
I'm thinking the Fi is what prompts me to behave in a certain way in accord with my inherent value system. I seem to reward myself emotionally whenever I act in accord with my set of values. I get a transcendent feeling, a sort of chill down my spine when either I behave or observe someone behaving in a way that I feel is absolutely sublime.
When you back that up with Ne, I get excited with the possibilities. I have a difficult time enjoying what's in the moment; I get riled up what's going to be and the partnership of Fi-Ne on good days is feeling that transcendent rush from the Fi from what I pick up via the Ne. I have an extremely intense and often chaotic inner world.

On bad days:
I'm a very angsty person on bad days, and I'm guessing that's a Fi thing too. It's really hard to get a grip on my emotional state, and I get in these really intense dark moods, at random intervals. Where the Ne comes in, is it'll pick out random things and ideas in my environment, brainstorming ideas as to why I'm feeling like this, because, in my mind, if I'm depressed there must be a reason, right? So, it picks out reasons like, "Nobody likes me." "I'm always left out." or weirder things, like if a person worded something a certain way, it must bode ill somehow. I find the Si feeds into it a lot, but the Ne filters all information I take in via Si in the way it chooses to feed into my inner angst. Filtering everything that backs up a certain belief system, rejecting all information that contradicts it. I find on those days, sometimes, there's nothing I can really do but let it pass and tell myself "You know a lot of what you're thinking is not true," and try to express myself as little as possible. On some days, I need to go as far as literally isolate myself until the feeling passes. According to most of my CF test results, apparently, I don't use Fi more than any other function (it's a tossup between Ni, Ne, and sometimes Ti apparently) so sometimes I wonder if maybe, I don't use it enough to get the hang of it? Because as soon as I snap back into Fi-dominance, it always seems to throw me off balance for a while.

So yeah...since, in theory, ENFJs are the other dreamers whose dominant function is a feeling function, and Fe is supposed to be opposite to Fi in a lot of ways, I kind of wonder what the thought process feels like for an ENFJ.
I ask my ENFJ friend a lot of questions too to get an idea of what it's like to be him, but I find he has a difficult time to find the words to articulate his inner architecture.

[Falling Leaves]

Just for contrast here, Ima tell you what Ti-Se is like xP

Ti - Being Ti dominant is like having a computer in your head which is on at every waking moment constantly processing information - it is always taking some issue apart and putting the parts back together just to see how it works. This newfound information is then filed away for reference later; it's pretty much like spending your life building a wikipedia about the world inside the confines of your own mind. I would describe my head, not as a tidy computer desktop with everything in it's place, but more the office of a well-aged acedemic with piles of papers everywhere (but it's the kind of mess where I, and only I, know where everything is ).
Se - I see the world primarily in front of me literally how it is. My Se is pretty under-developed though so I can't describe it as anything more than that.

The main danger with my type (low Se ISTP) is that I have a tendancy to live in my own head above focusing on the external world and 'getting out of my shell'. When I see a person, I see a person - I don't see a myraid of possibilites or feelings; this sucks because it puts me at a fairly bad position in social situations, I've kind of just had to learn to run my mouth at people and hope it amuses them enough so that they like me ^^ I prefer in depth conversations about subjects which allow me to get a real grip on my Ti and being able to make others laugh, I absolutely loathe making conversation for the sake of it (smalltalk) and have a tendancy to avoid situations where I am forced to face my own social inadequacy head on. Because of this, I can come across as unfriendly, aloof and dispassionate about others.

[dulcinea]

Just for contrast here, Ima tell you what Ti-Se is like xP

Ti - Being Ti dominant is like having a computer in your head which is on at every waking moment constantly processing information - it is always taking some issue apart and putting the parts back together just to see how it works. This newfound information is then filed away for reference later; it's pretty much like spending your life building a wikipedia about the world inside the confines of your own mind. I would describe my head, not as a tidy computer desktop with everything in it's place, but more the office of a well-aged acedemic with piles of papers everywhere (but it's the kind of mess where I, and only I, know where everything is ).
Se - I see the world primarily in front of me literally how it is. My Se is pretty under-developed though so I can't describe it as anything more than that.

The main danger with my type (low Se ISTP) is that I have a tendancy to live in my own head above focusing on the external world and 'getting out of my shell'. When I see a person, I see a person - I don't see a myraid of possibilites or feelings; this sucks because it puts me at a fairly bad position in social situations, I've kind of just had to learn to run my mouth at people and hope it amuses them enough so that they like me ^^ I prefer in depth conversations about subjects which allow me to get a real grip on my Ti and being able to make others laugh, I absolutely loathe making conversation for the sake of it (smalltalk) and have a tendancy to avoid situations where I am forced to face my own social inadequacy head on. Because of this, I can come across as unfriendly, aloof and dispassionate about others.

What you say about Ti sounds familiar. I find, even though my preference is Fi, I find I do use Ti quite a bit. I find it's what gives me my mechanical inclination, and ability to troubleshoot; I do sometimes have that "wikipedia" mentality. I think I'm a type 5 too, so when I get into "thinker" mode sometimes, I find my 5 tendency to what to investigate and get at the bottom of a problem reinforces that tendency to prefer Ti over Te. I think I have a very weak feeling preference, so when I make a decision, sometimes I have to ask myself if this is a question of feelings and values or a decision in which those things should be separate? and I go the feelings/values route a little over 50% of the time and go the "thinker" mode almost 50% of the time. It's like my personality is divided into partitions. No wonder it took forever for me to really know myself...

[Bumblyjack]

Just for contrast here, Ima tell you what Ti-Se is like xP

Ti - Being Ti dominant is like having a computer in your head which is on at every waking moment constantly processing information - it is always taking some issue apart and putting the parts back together just to see how it works. This newfound information is then filed away for reference later; it's pretty much like spending your life building a wikipedia about the world inside the confines of your own mind. I would describe my head, not as a tidy computer desktop with everything in it's place, but more the office of a well-aged acedemic with piles of papers everywhere (but it's the kind of mess where I, and only I, know where everything is ).
Se - I see the world primarily in front of me literally how it is. My Se is pretty under-developed though so I can't describe it as anything more than that.

The main danger with my type (low Se ISTP) is that I have a tendancy to live in my own head above focusing on the external world and 'getting out of my shell'. When I see a person, I see a person - I don't see a myraid of possibilites or feelings; this sucks because it puts me at a fairly bad position in social situations, I've kind of just had to learn to run my mouth at people and hope it amuses them enough so that they like me ^^ I prefer in depth conversations about subjects which allow me to get a real grip on my Ti and being able to make others laugh, I absolutely loathe making conversation for the sake of it (smalltalk) and have a tendancy to avoid situations where I am forced to face my own social inadequacy head on. Because of this, I can come across as unfriendly, aloof and dispassionate about others.

This sounds just like my ISTP friend. He never has a feel for what to say to people. For him, every interaction is like an experiment based on a calculated guess.

We go out to bars together every now-and-then and he surprisingly has no qualms with approaching girls, even though he has no idea what to say. I find that quite impressive. He likes to ask me what to say but it usually comes off wrong. I guess he doesn't use the right tone of voice or something. I always feel bad about it but he never does. It seems like he feels he has no clue what to say and appreciates that I tried to help.

[Jawz]

On a good day, I'd say it's a lot like that teacher from "freedom writers".

On bad days ... hmmm ... I'd say more like Skywalker when he was being seduced by the dark side.

On average days ... it's like the old man from Up.

[KC]

On great days, it would be as if I'm on the Limitless pill. I appear strong, confident, smart, charming. I know what you wanna say even before you say. I speak your language even though we're from completely different backgrounds. I am full of ideas, intuitive, intellectual, powerful, unpredictable and effective. I can convince even the most powerful man that anything I say, he can make pots of gold around it and he's just like "Well kid, go ahead!"

On bad days, I'd be like old and tired, always grasping onto some feeble form of inspiration to try to get me through the day. Endless self contemplation about life and what I'm missing out on, holding onto old memories that will never be relived and new ones that will never come to pass.

[Happy about Nothing.]

On great days: I love everyone. Everything is beautiful and lovely and full of life. Every little person and expression is magnified into something absolutely magnificent. The unity in the steps of two individuals, the sound of laughter.....everyone is brimming with potential and everything seems to have a sort of beautiful synergy.

[JC22]

It feels like I want to cartwheels every where I go. :)

I don't really have bad days though, I try to see the good in each day. So I usually have great days, and 'OK' days.

Everyday that I'm given a chance to improve my situation, even by a little bit, is a good day.

[Etherea]

I relate to wanting to do cartwheels on really good days :) When I'm in a great mood, I talk/smile/laugh a lot, joke around like crazy, seem excited/energetic/full of life, confident, loving, warm, open, helpful. I feel like everything and everyone is amazing, nothing can go wrong and I feel very peaceful.

On bad days...approach with caution. :/ I just want to either be left alone, or soothed into a more calm state. Depending on what sort of bad it is, I can be cranky, sullen, gloomy, quiet, on edge, withdrawn, sometimes derisive, but generally rather short. I say little to cause the least offense when I'm in a sour mood. I sometimes take it out on others when I don't mean to. I will lie and say everything is okay. Generally will reach a point where I force myself to push past it and sink into a middle ground. Everything sucks, I hate my surroundings, most people are annoying and I just want to curl up and not feel these emotions again.

On okay days, or days that are bad but I'm trying to make the best of it, I'm usually a bit quieter, but go to extra lengths to be kind and helpful. I keep to myself, but I don't withdraw from my surroundings. More prone to saying I don't want to talk about it rather than feebly trying to pretend everything's okay. I feel like everything is lukewarm, cling to whatever silver lining I have and avoid negative emotions at all costs.