[Gypsy]

I have concluded that television is man's worst invention, it encourages couch potatoes, needless violence, naivety, stupidity, unrealistic expectations, slothfulness, exposure to subliminal messaging & brainwashing, paranoia, over-sensitivity, climbing crime rates of every kind, idealised stupidity, undermined potential, confusion, reverse psychology, infliction of absurd ideals & normalities, emotional-instabilities, insecurities, jealousy, lust, depression, & various other crimes against humanity. It has become driver to our fragile reality, which is spiralling out of control at an increasing rate & 98% of people will deny this fact openly all the while it is busy shaping them into the lowest common denominator, eating what is left of their judgement & free will. I have therefore resolved in never watching television again (films excluded), in protest.

It's practically a balck hole to express my drastic opinion.

Try to reason differently, I dare you.

[FaveteLinguis]

Is it the invention itself that is so horrible? Or the fact that we let it control us?

You may as well argue that the internet will be the world's worst invention for the utility it has. A thing can never be good or bad except for the purpose that we use it for. Sorry bub but I don't think television is a black hole when the most common denominator ultimately rests on everybody.

[Nearsification]

No humanity is always like that.

TV just makes it convenient.

[Vaan]

It's not the television to blame but the content. The programs as we know them are pointless and do steer people to ideals and values that makes us more obedient or less obedient depending on what the government wishes. Personally i don't care, at least not yet...

[Psychosmurf]

I have concluded that television is man's worst invention, it encourages couch potatoes, needless violence, naivety, stupidity, unrealistic expectations, slothfulness, exposure to subliminal messaging & brainwashing, paranoia, over-sensitivity, climbing crime rates of every kind, idealised stupidity, undermined potential, confusion, reverse psychology, infliction of absurd ideals & normalities, emotional-instabilities, insecurities, jealousy, lust, depression, & various other crimes against humanity. It has become driver to our fragile reality, which is spiralling out of control at an increasing rate & 98% of people will deny this fact openly all the while it is busy shaping them into the lowest common denominator, eating what is left of their judgement & free will. I have therefore resolved in never watching television again (films excluded), in protest.

It's practically a balck hole to express my drastic opinion.

Try to reason differently, I dare you.

Evidence for your claims?

[Souljorn]

Lol that's like saying guns kill people@Gypsy

I get a lot of pleasure watching my favorite tv shows but the media or my tv are not Holy to me. It's merely entertainment. I think it's dangerous when people download what the tv says into their minds and let the tv wire their perception, but whatever people are inherently retarded

[Gypsy]

Evidence for your claims?

Oh come on man, why are you on the debate forum if you can't put 2 & 2 together by your intelligent self? Alright I'll give you some evidence, just the other day I was watching some crime doco that covered the escalating crime rates in South Africa. They interviewed a self proclaimed "criminal", off of the street at that. They asked him how he got into crime. His reply? Well simply put he replies "I watcha de crimes on de tv", in his dirty accent. He then went onto explain how he broke into someone’s house whilst the family were at home & demanded all of their money/etc & when they refused to oblige he put their five year old girl in the oven. Want some more evidence? Use your thinker man. I think you're pretty capable to start figuring things out for yourself.

Lol that's like saying guns kill people@Gypsy

I get a lot of pleasure watching my favourite tv shows but the media or my tv are not Holy to me. It's merely entertainment. I think it's dangerous when people download what the tv says into their minds and let the tv wire their perception, but whatever people are inherently retarded

Well don't guns kill people? It takes effort form the person to pull the trigger but without the trigger there would be no bullet therefore the person would remain innocent of murder. It takes both the gun & the person to commit the murder, just like it takes both a will & a television to rot your brain. Without the television people would have to resolve to more difficult measures to waste their time. Innit? We're talking joint effort here. Like 1 + 1 = 2. You get what I'm saying?

People who have superior perception & judgement might be able to avoid media's pitfalls, but they make a up a small minority, surely you must realize this looking a society from an objective stand point? It would be selfish & unreasonable to allow only people who have a knowledge of what going on in the bigger picture to watch television whilst people with more inferior comprehension to miss out. There wouldn't be much profit in the production of televisions or even mainstream media if they olny catered for the superior intellect. It would be like the weed legalization gig, people would smuggle & kill for telvisions. Even then not even the most discerning of minds wouldn’t be safe from subliminal messaging, don't ask for links, you're perfectly capable of acquiring them yourselves if you were really interested. You want to know why television is such a successful weapon? Well let’s face it, it's entertainment! We all love being entertained. Secondly it's got something for everybody, it caters for all tastes, therefore everyone can enjoy it. So why would you hate it, right?

[Souljorn]

@Gypsy, trust me I deeply agree with you but I don't think control is right. Tv is made the way it is bc we live in a world made up of idiots and people who sell those idiots needless shit to fill their empty shitty life. These people know only 6 things, religion, work, fuck, eat, shit, and fox news and I deeply hate them because they're content spinning in their hamster wheels while judging others for not doing the same. This is human domestication and it works, that is why we call them sheeple.

Now like I said guns don't kill people, they never have. No one buys a loaded gun bullets are sold separately for a reason.

[Gypsy]

Is it the invention itself that is so horrible? Or the fact that we let it control us?

You may as well argue that the internet will be the world's worst invention for the utility it has. A thing can never be good or bad except for the purpose that we use it for. Sorry bub but I don't think television is a black hole when the most common denominator ultimately rests on everybody.

So your argument is that we have a choice whether we want it to control us? If we had a choice wouldn't most of us have chosen not to let it control us? Then why is it that is control such a majority of people? Television makes the choice easy, the real choice of control lies in not turning the television on.

I cannot pass the internet as a weapon because lets face it we the the public are the ones who are shaping it's content, there is far too much user control to validify it's uselessness. Infact I've learnt allot of hat I know from doing research on the internet. It's the fact that we can use it as a resource to gather knowledge & to communicate with one another that makes it useful rather than destructive. Yeah sure it's got some nasty stuff, but television has discovery channel & other educational channels. However television can not be used as a resource to do research on, nor can you communicate over the television with peers(you need all sorts of cameras & gadgets which you could just use on the computer anyways). So yeah by sacrificing television your also doing away with allot of constructive programs & sh*t but they make up such a minority these days, not that they are that popular anyway.

Have you ever listened to a song & suddenly felt like dancing, or a sad song & felt reflective & sad, or a mellow song that calmed you, or a song that just kicked inspiration into you? Now have you watched a program or film with no music? Pretty boring huh? Half of the visual experience is in the sounds, music is used to inspire, shock, make jest of, to carry your emotions along with the story. Now in order to make the visuals appealing advertisers, filmmakers, directors alike know they have to captivate the audience in order to sell their product or move to the viewers. So they each aim to utilize music for what better medium is there to play with people moods & emotions?

Now for the majority that don't have wire on their tv, there are more adds than programs, all of these adds come with it's own little jingle, some sad some happy, some melancholy some upbeat & some downbeat. With the constant change in rhythms, tones, beats what’s happening is a drastic rise & fall of your emotions. I read somewhere that on average your everyday joe watches about 2 hours of television every day, of every week, year in & year out. The only other comparison I could possibly liken the effect of this to is junkies & substance abusers. The end result is addiction, dependence on television to make you feel good.

You don't believe me? Want to test it out yourself? Have your children(preferably under 10s) watch television for a good two or three hours a day & see how they change. Honestly don't let me tall you what happens, you try it yourself. Or even better try give up television for good? No? Yeah proves my point. Ball's back in your court bub ;)

[Souljorn]

@Gypsy