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This is a discussion on Is Islam a threat to the Western World ? within the The Debate Forum forums, part of the Topics of Interest category; Originally Posted by Arclight What does any of that have to do with you calling someone prejudiced and then using ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arclight View Post
    What does any of that have to do with you calling someone prejudiced and then using prejudice to back up your case?
    Do I really have to spell this out for you?
    Seems to me, by suggesting someone isn't an MBTI Type because you disagree with their point of view, is prejudiced.

    Kinda blows whatever cred you might have. Know what I mean?
    I think you misinterpreted the intent of the post.

    Personally, I would not dare to be opinionated without knowing all the in and outs. From experience I learned that most intp's would feel the same about that, every single INTP I've met wouldn't let his mind go corrupt with prejudice unless the intent was trolling or lack of interest.

    Other than that, disagreeing with someone that has a point of view that is morally despicable, is not prejudiced.

    Racism is always based on ignorance.
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    No. How can people even get the notion that Islam is a threat. Rotten few in a group, just like in any religion. Extremists are terrible and hypocritical (holy wars anybody?). A religion can't really be bad, it's a belief system. But when others try to impose through force their beliefs then of course it's a threat to anybody. Flawless logic, nobody can really dispute that.

  3. #643

    "Is Islam a threat to the Western world?"

    No.

    Now let's rephrase this question from the point of view of a person living in a Country where Islam is the predominant religion:

    "Is the Western world a threat to the people who follow Islam?"

    Yes, so much so that the most military capable Country in the Western world waged multiple wars on entire Countries because it convinced a mostly ignorant populace that those who follow Islam are violent, murderous, discriminatory human beings. Not like Christianity (The Western equivalent of Islam) which actually tends to have a much, much larger written history of violence compared to Islam.
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  4. #644

    Quote Originally Posted by absent air View Post
    If someone has a deformed perspective on the world and does not try to straighten his views by educating himself it is nothing more than sad.
    ...says the guy who believes that atheism is a conspiratorial invention of the Freemasons. XD
    Quote Originally Posted by absent air View Post
    with a perspective like yours you can spot a fallacy when there is none, or label it as fallacy when it is in fact, just a skipped steppingstone towards the truth. Which is sad as well.
    Oh, yes indeed, so very sad. Or maybe you just don't know anything about logical argumentation, as demonstrated by your perennial inability to address the point rather than the person. If all you have in your arsenal is smears and vacuous bromides, then you're just not worth my time.
    Quote Originally Posted by absent air View Post
    disagreeing with someone that has a point of view that is morally despicable, is not prejudiced.
    The "prejudice" comes from the fact that you almost certainly haven't a clue what my point of view even is.
    Perhaps you could articulate it for me? :)
    Quote Originally Posted by absent air View Post
    Racism is always based on ignorance.
    Are you insinuating that I'm a racist?
    Also, are you claiming that Islam is a race?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azrael View Post
    ...says the guy who believes that atheism is a conspiratorial invention of the Freemasons. XD

    Oh, yes indeed, so very sad. Or maybe you just don't know anything about logical argumentation, as demonstrated by your perennial inability to address the point rather than the person. If all you have in your arsenal is smears and vacuous bromides, then you're just not worth my time.

    The "prejudice" comes from the fact that you almost certainly haven't a clue what my point of view even is.
    Perhaps you could articulate it for me? :)

    Are you insinuating that I'm a racist?
    Also, are you claiming that Islam is a race?
    I can safely assume that You're a racist, you believe that Islam is a threat. Islam is a religion and not a race.
    /end

  6. #646

    Quote Originally Posted by absent air View Post
    I can safely assume that You're a racist, you believe that Islam is a threat. Islam is a religion and not a race.
    /end

    You correctly state that Islam is not a race, but a religion. So how can believing that Islam is a threat be racist?

    (I'm not saying that Azrael or anyone else believes that Islam is a threat, by the way).

  7. #647

    Quote Originally Posted by skycloud86 View Post
    You correctly state that Islam is not a race, but a religion. So how can believing that Islam is a threat be racist?

    Racism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    In 2001, the European Union explicitly banned racism along with many other forms of social discrimination in the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union, the legal effect of which, if any, would necessarily be limited to Institutions of the European Union: "Article 21 of the charter prohibits discrimination on any ground such as race, color, ethnic or social origin, genetic features, language, religion or belief, political or any other opinion, membership of a national minority, property, disability, age or sexual orientation and also discrimination on the grounds of nationality."

    A form of social discrimination or racism.

    Is a Jew that converted to a different religion still a Jew when his mother is a Jew if he identifies himself as Jew?

    There is a reformulation of the concept of racism that incorporates both biological and cultural elements, according to the national law, the word used is religious racism. But this definition would most probably differ from nation to nation.

    But interesting point nevertheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by absent air View Post
    I can safely assume that You're a racist, you believe that Islam is a threat.
    Well, I think I can safely assume that you won't be saying anything remotely interesting any time soon, so I won't be addressing you anymore. Anyone can slander and vituperate people they disagree with (or presume that they do), but only some can construct cogent arguments and have a conversation. Let me know if/when you join the latter crowd. :)
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  9. #649

    Quote Originally Posted by Azrael View Post
    Well, I think I can safely assume that you won't be saying anything remotely interesting any time soon, so I won't be addressing you anymore. Anyone can slander and vituperate people they disagree with (or presume that they do), but only some can construct cogent arguments and have a conversation. Let me know if/when you join the latter crowd. :)
    Why should I construct arguments when you can just answer directly? You stated that Islam should be concerning to anyone.

  10. #650

    Islam is not a threat to the Western world, people are a threat to the world.
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