Teacher makes girl undress [but I call bullshit.]

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This is a discussion on Teacher makes girl undress [but I call bullshit.] within the Current Events forums, part of the Topics of Interest category; The Columbus Dispatch : Teacher, 60, accused of making girl drop pants This happened a few days ago at my ...

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    Teacher makes girl undress [but I call bullshit.]

    The Columbus Dispatch : Teacher, 60, accused of making girl drop pants

    This happened a few days ago at my school. I was fairly close to the girl in question.

    Other than just thinking I'd share, I'm curious about all your opinions on a few things - is it really right to leave out the name of the mother? Yes, this compromises the privacy of the child, but should the family be expected to exchange NOTHING in order to ruin this woman's life, without any proof - suggestive or solid - that she did anything wrong?

    Also, it's a grand example of media incompleteness and/or censorship. This article says nowhere that the student mentioned has been held, more than once, in the psychatric ward, and has a lengthy history of troubles over her incomplete first year of high school. She does not have out-of-classroom privileges. I think these things severely damage her credibility.

    This customer-[or student]-is-always-right mindset certainly is flawed. It eliminates the need for evidence or probable cause -_-.
    Last edited by ClubbedWithSpades; 05-03-2009 at 05:32 PM.



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    I don't understand why the student's behavior should have any impact on this incident.
    That logic reminds me of the Brian Deneke incident.
    Even convicted felons have most of the same rights any other citizen.
    From a practical standpoint, how much of an idiot does one have to be to do this, anyway?
    Making a student remove clothing in order to get permission to leave the class (I assume this is what happened; both you and the article were vague), yeah, who'd have thought that might go bad!
    I prettymuch agree with the superintendent guy; I don't see a reasonable way this could have happened.

    A teacher at my school was caught attempting to use a cellphone to take an upskirt picture of a student, and was promptly fired.
    Both these incidents involve the invasion of assumed privacy.
    I imagine you wouldn't try to justify his actions
    So, what makes these two incidents different?
    Intent?

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    Sorry, you're right, I was a little vague.

    No, the difference is that I seriously don't believe the woman would have made such a request. I also believe that the girl probably would have whipped out her undies at any provocation, like "I don't believe you."

    But it seems that as soon as the student told her story, true or not, this woman, who is even made out in the article to be a sweetheart, lost the case. No student should ever be harassed in such a way by a figure of authority, but why is it so impossible that the student is ever, ever lying? Especially, a student with a long history of malice and dishonesty?
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    We are supposed to be presumed innocent until proven guilty.
    News reports often make people seem guilty without proof, just on someone's accusation.
    People's reputations and lives are often damaged in this way. The stains on their reputation can last to the end of their lives and beyond, even after the media have retracted the accuations. Some of these people end up committing suicide even, or having health problems related to stress and depression that end up killing them.

    The habit of many newspapers of printing the full name and home address of people who have been accused of a crime, while withholding the names of the alleged victims, is absurd.
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    pull down her pants to prove that she had her period.
    why was she asked to prove this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam View Post
    We are supposed to be presumed innocent until proven guilty.
    News reports often make people seem guilty without proof, just on someone's accusation.
    People's reputations and lives are often damaged in this way. The stains on their reputation can last to the end of their lives and beyond, even after the media have retracted the accuations. Some of these people end up committing suicide even, or having health problems related to stress and depression that end up killing them.

    The habit of many newspapers of printing the full name and home address of people who have been accused of a crime, while withholding the names of the alleged victims, is absurd.
    The media does that alot, even sometime use exaggeration and vague words just to make people other angry or sad. That's what sells right now.

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    Gasp

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubbedWithSpades View Post
    Sorry, you're right, I was a little vague.

    No, the difference is that I seriously don't believe the woman would have made such a request. I also believe that the girl probably would have whipped out her undies at any provocation, like "I don't believe you."

    But it seems that as soon as the student told her story, true or not, this woman, who is even made out in the article to be a sweetheart, lost the case. No student should ever be harassed in such a way by a figure of authority, but why is it so impossible that the student is ever, ever lying? Especially, a student with a long history of malice and dishonesty?
    You dare question that somebody would be LYING about molestation?!
    Tsk tsk. You're a bad person.


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    i used heard that junior high's gym teacher make a grade 3 girl walk around in undies because she left her gym pants in her classroom or somthing.... talk about shcool legend...

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    You don't need to be a teacher to get a teenage girl out of her pants.

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    Gah! Seriously? ...as though the short gym shorts they made us wear weren't revealing enough! Mrkedi, I'm not really as surprised as I sound, just disturbed. I remember being in a gym class where showers were mandatory and the female gym teachers would make us parade in front of them naked to make sure we were thoroughly wet. It was humiliating, especially when we were at an age where some of the girls were developing faster than others, and were often insecure about it.
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