CT Elementary School Shooting

Originally Posted by whisperycat

This is actually scary, for real. It's a scenario which quite simply couldn't take place in this country.

Why not? Is there a reason that I couldn't manufacture a nail bomb and detonate it during an assembly in an infants school?

If you or I had the motivation and the mentality, we could kill any number of children. Whether or not we had a semi automatic rifle is not really relevant.

What's the difference between Harold Shipman and this bloke, or Anders Breivik? None, really.

It is nothing to do with paranoia, or with arms.

It is slightly to do with help available to the mentally ill, as you suggest, but that is part of a much broader scheme.

Wow the guy was really sick :(

Originally Posted by Shinji Mimura

But we all do need to be on the same page. We all need to come to the same conclusions and hold the same mindsets vis-a-vis social issues, economic issues, and so on.

What?

There are so many inconsistencies in this whole case

When You Tie Shootings to Mental Illness » Ashley Miller

Originally Posted by Roland787

When You Tie Shootings to Mental Illness » Ashley Miller

Double 'thanks' for posting this article. I have been thinking the same thing, especially with all of this talk of a "mentally ill" list. Gives me the chills. What would the reality of that be like. Never mind HIPPA laws. And the author of this article is right, with Adam Lanza, there is no proof of anything yet (regarding a diagnosis) and there may not ever be (although I still wonder if he was really prescribed fanapt, like his uncle reports & if anyone will come forward on that) .

'You want to care for the living? You want mental health care to be better? Stop making mental illness the scapegoat. You are causing stigma. You are making it harder. You are part of the problem. If today, seeing a therapist was free, treatment was covered as long as it was needed, do you think everyone who needed it would go? If the dominant narrative is that only ‘crazy people’ shoot schoolchildren?"

Makes me sick on how the media always pushes the idea that anybody who performs such a sick (using that term loosely) act is mentally ill somehow, instead of you know, just being a fucking asshole with a fucked up view. People refuse to accept the fact that some people are just assholes and feel that they should have been entitled to happiness and since they didn't receive it, innocents need to pay the price. And they try to push it all off as being an issue on mental illness (which yeah, is an issue that needs to be addressed no doubt) instead of the real problem which is gun control.

And it makes most other people who also suffer from depression/reclusiveness/anxiety/not fitting in/''weird'' in an off-putting way, as being dangerous or potentially dangerous; which more often than not is not the case at all.

Originally Posted by Roland787

Makes me sick on how the media always pushes the idea that anybody who performs such a sick (using that term loosely) act is mentally ill somehow, instead of you know, just being a fucking asshole with a fucked up view. People refuse to accept the fact that some people are just assholes and feel that they should have been entitled to happiness and since they didn't receive it, innocents need to pay the price. And they try to push it all off as being an issue on mental illness (which yeah, is an issue that needs to be addressed no doubt) instead of the real problem which is gun control.

And it makes most other people who also suffer from depression/reclusiveness/anxiety/not fitting in/''weird'' in an off-putting way, as being dangerous or potentially dangerous; which more often than not is not the case at all.

It makes me think of that saying, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions"

Well hell is apparently filled with all kinds of people who actually did have really good intentions....they just lacked one key credential. Sorry, couldn't help myself

Originally Posted by Vulgar mutt

Wow the guy was really sick :(

Or a bad person with bad morals. I believe they exist.