Satanism according to the Satanic Bible

Originally Posted by Waiting

Subtle tone changes in writing. Regardless, it remains to be seen only because others lack the same knowledge that you're professing as if you know, if that wasn't the case I don't see why you would have felt the need to express what you did. There's a difference between what you think you know and what you know you know. Again all I can say to you is that you need to broaden that area of study because your facts are far from the truth. Whether you choose to believe that, or go on believing you've stated accurate information is entirely up to you.

What is the truth, then? It isn't fair to challenge my credibility and not even present an alternate view. What you posted doesn't count as that because it doesn't even address what I was talking about.

Also, what I expressed is that what you believe has nothing to do with it, and it doesn't. I'm talking about people from thousands of years ago, so unless you were alive thousands of years ago, then I'm not talking about you. It was not pertinent to what I was saying.

Edit: also I don't appreciate your unfair tactics in public. It would be so much easier if I could just go around and tell people that they are mysteriously wrong and foolish with NOTHING to back it up. Heck, I could use it in every argument even when I don't have anything to back it up just to irritate people and discredit them - but unfortunately for me I am at least somewhat scrupulous in these matters.

I pretty much always at least try to give this benefit. A "you are wrong" should be followed with a "because.." in most cases.

@Roland787 I agree with a lot of Satanism as well. In fact, I have said as much often.

Its the dark parts, the founder, the name and history, and the connotations that build my resistance.

We are instinctive creatures, and our instincts keep us alive. If we start tricking ourselves by saying things like Satanism that is supposed to be evil, is actually good, then I think we've not only bent our language too far, but we've stepped past the line of safety.

Shall we then throw around the word rape, simply to make a point?

Is there no decency, no line?

Are not these points you have, better made in private?

Originally Posted by Souled In

@Roland787 I agree with a lot of Satanism as well. In fact, I have said as much often.

Its the dark parts, the founder, the name and history, and the connotations that build my resistance.

We are instinctive creatures, and our instincts keep us alive. If we start tricking ourselves by saying things like Satanism that is supposed to be evil, is actually good, then I think we've not only bent our language too far, but we've stepped past the line of safety.

Shall we then throw around the word rape, simply to make a point?

Is there no decency, no line?

Are not these points you have, better made in private?

We can ignore the founder and the name and still walk away with the appreciation of the teachings themselves. LaVey may or may not be a douche, or one who was just trying to get 'trick' others into thinking his way. This is irrelevant really to the actual message behind what he had to say. Same with the name; the only reason the name throws people off is because of the preconception they have that satan is evil. The history of it can be associated with some bad things that have happened by other satanists; but the same can be said of christianity as well. There have been far more atrocities and harm caused by christians/jewish/muslim faiths than there ever have been by satanists.

What makes it that Satanism is 'supposed' to be evil? Again, this is only coming from the xian/jewish/muslim faiths and their doctrines declaring this because it goes against their 'moral' teachings. Just because they claim it as truth does not make it true, nor does the fact that they teach certain 'morals' make those 'morals' true either.

These 'truths' and 'morals' that are thrown around so much are subjective. There is no objective definition of what is morally 'right' or 'wrong'. The only objectivity we can arrive at when speaking of 'morality' is what I have stated before, being about the promotion of well-being etc and minimizing harm and suffering.

Using and changing the word rape is a completely different concept. Rape has a definitive and objective definition.

Theistic satanists are cruel, murderous, and sadistic and deserve to have less rights than most criminals.

Originally Posted by SuperDevastation

Theistic satanists are cruel, murderous, and sadistic and deserve to have less rights than most criminals.

Hardly. Another ignorant misconception of satanists who actually believe in a real being of satan. Some of them? Yeah, of course. There are cruel and murderous people in any religion. A lot of them in xian and muslim faiths as well.....that mean that xian and muslim religions are evil too? Not necessarily.

Originally Posted by Roland787

Hardly. Another ignorant misconception of satanists who actually believe in a real being of satan. Some of them? Yeah, of course. There are cruel and murderous people in any religion. A lot of them in xian and muslim faiths as well.....that mean that xian and muslim religions are evil too? Not necessarily.

Satan is pure evil, so anyone who worships him won't/can't help but be evil too since that's what satan wants. The only exceptions are those who turn to him because they're lost and upset/frustrated with life.

Originally Posted by SuperDevastation

Satan is pure evil, so anyone who worships him can't help but be evil too since that's what satan wants. The only exceptions are those who turn to him because they're lost and upset/frustrated with life.

'Pure evil' by what standard? You dont seem to grasp the concept of what I am trying to say here, at all. I can call yahweh 'evil' for plenty of reasons too, but that in a sense would be misconceiving as well for he does have some good qualities and teachings as well.

Your standard of evil here is misguided, and your understanding of satan(ism) is ignorant.

Originally Posted by Roland787

'Pure evil' by what standard? You dont seem to grasp the concept of what I am trying to say here, at all. I can call yahweh 'evil' for plenty of reasons too, but that in a sense would be misconceiving as well for he does have some good qualities and teachings as well.

Your standard of evil here is misguided, and your understanding of satan(ism) is ignorant.

Resorting to insults and accusations/assumptions in a desperate attempt to win an argument you can't win. And you're the one who's misguided since you're foolish enough to believe it's possible for devil worshipers to be good. If you actually did your research you'd see the devil is the personification of evil and those who worship him are evil, so don't reply to me again unless you do your research.

Originally Posted by SuperDevastation

Resorting to insults and accusations/assumptions in a desperate attempt to win an argument you can't win. And you're the one who's misguided since you're foolish enough to believe it's possible for devil worshipers to be good.

I wasnt insulting, I was only pointing out the flaw in your argument...
I wasnt 'assuming' anything, was just basing it off what you stated.
And you really just supported my case with this post.


Thanks.

Originally Posted by SuperDevastation

Keep telling yourself all of that, fuc*ing loser.

If you want to address my points you can do so here. You can quit sending me messages in my profile now, you are only supporting my case with the insults.....


I never once said I supported 'devil' worshippers. Hell, I dont really support the worshipping of any deity, 'devil or god'. Devil is the term given to satan in xian/jewish/muslim faiths and I have not used that term once in any of my arguments. I am referring only to satan in that according to satanic bible, if you would have cared to read any ofthe information available you would have realized this. Instead you choose to express your biased opinions based on what you were taught from the bible (and yeah, in those bibles satan is seen as evil. but not in the satanic bible or any of the ideas i have been expressing) that you know.




(I really do not want to involve a mod, so please dont force the issue)