Why is Sluttyness More Hated?

Originally Posted by marked174

Yeah, but why is the dark cloud there, and why is it so much darker than other clouds? I understand that a one-night stand is difficult to see in a positive light, but why is it seen so negatively? Historically speaking, those who slept around were seen with more cruelty than those who owned slaves. Some might say this stems from morals, but I shudder to think that people would call this morality!

Slaves follow orders, sluts are rebels. The rebels will always be confronted by those who like order.

I agree with the ENTPreneur here and anyone with the similar opinion.

If you have more women who are promiscuous, you will have more men who are promiscuous, the traditional men and women would feel uncomfortable.

It's actually very simple.

Originally Posted by ENTrePenuer

This is the truth, but like all truth it's impolite to simply say it.
Relationships are in essence a war.
If you want the prettiest girl you have to pay the highest price.


Ha! civilized society, go ahead tell me another one.



There's no irony here it's a question of unity.
The prisoners dilemma in game theory sums it up, if women presented a unified front they would essentially
control mankind.


Sure because society seeks to obfuscate this. it is said, but never said.


Justifications of a denied truth.
Is it really that bad when you think of it?
You seem to be fairly well off so you should be boning decent quality tail.

Yeah, but there's more to life then just that. Relationships do not have to be war and we do not have to slaves to our environment and a preconceived set of conditions. People do not have to behave a certain way and can choose which paths to take. But in order to progress down a desirable path, one must first be able to see the path that they are on, where that path will take him, and which way he wants to go. This is why it is so important to understand why we do things the way we do, why we judge people in the way that we do, and ask ourselves whether or not we should make any changes.

You asked a question. I answered it.

Originally Posted by marked174

But in order to progress down a desirable path, one must first be able to see the path that they are on, where that path will take him, and which way he wants to go. This is why it is so important to understand why we do things the way we do, why we judge people in the way that we do, and ask ourselves whether or not we should make any changes.

If you want to make changes, decrease inequality between people (wealth, intelligence, physique). If that's even possible.

Originally Posted by Azrael

It has nothing to do with "imprudence." If it did, then men and women would be equally disrespected for sleeping around.
The reality is that men are usually praised for it, while women are derided.
Aerorobyn's evaluation is much more true to reality.

While Aerobyn's view is part of the puzzle, I don't think it's the underlying factor.
There are people who do not desire sexual relationships who still socially view sluts as inferior.
Why would that be so, if people are predominantly against sluts because they are seen as threats?
It doesn't add up.

I think it's mostly about imprudence.
Yet, because men and women are perceived differently, for natural reasons, women are simply treated to a different standard with regard to imprudence, whereas guys may be seen as both imprudent and respectable. So some people will find all sluts (men or women) to be inferior, while most will place a harsher standard on women.

So perhaps it is like Jackass, and Entrepreneurs, and farting kids in class: while two different types of people may engage in imprudent behavior (which we tend to view as wrong or to be frowned upon), some are simply seen as better for it, if it somehow makes us laugh or serves some function to us, while others will be seen as entirely shameful for it, as they really don't do anything to make us think otherwise. So females will be seen as weak individuals taken advantage of, while guys will be seen as strong and powerful individuals worthy of respect, who are just expressing their dominion over this world. For some reason, people tend to view these kinds of people in a high light, as they are capable, strong, and reliable.

It's master/slave morality, plain and simple.

Originally Posted by Aerorobyn

Women hate on sluts because... (kind of going off of what ENTre said) they know that men love sex - easy sex at that. Sluts give men the options of having sex without being in a committed relationship. Then, the women who would only give it up to a man who would "commit" to her get upset. She is of no use to him, because he got quick and easy sex from a slut!

Personally, I don't really give a damn. It's not something I would do, but if a woman wants to slut around... It's her life *shrug*

In regards to female "hate" of "sluts", I think this above is like the female equivalent of 'nice guy' syndrome. Females who "put out" and who have sex appeal seem to be approached by, get more attention from, or get in relationships much easier, than women who don't flaunt their sex appeal. So the females who don't "put out" generally don't get attention, and they feel like they are constantly overlooked, much like "males" who claim they are "nice guys" claim they get overlooked by women. It's partially exasperation regarding social values and what people generally prize most in a mate, perhaps. It's a sense of, "why don't people value me? I have several good traits that make me attractive... yet, everyone values sex, and sex appeal more, and the ones who have this commodity, or are willing to engage in it, get what I really deserve more than they do". There's a sense of hatred perhaps with females devaluing other females who flaunt their sexuality or sleep around, because it may seem like they are "selling out" their values just to be prized by males (or indeed females) via an easy way in (sex).

Originally Posted by ENTrePenuer

I didn't read this because frankly I have things to do, but I'm gonna go ahead and guess that you somehow made the preposterous argument that fucking, the quintessential function of all organic life is not rational.
I really wish I had a way to block all intps :(

Even if it's the basic function of all organic life, that doesn't make it rational.
Our functions, on the contrary, seem quite irrational.

Originally Posted by Nova

In regards to female "hate" of "sluts", I think this above is like the female equivalent of 'nice guy' syndrome. Females who "put out" and who have sex appeal seem to be approached by, get more attention from, or get in relationships much easier, than women who don't flaunt their sex appeal. So the females who don't "put out" generally don't get attention, and they feel like they are constantly overlooked, much like "males" who claim they are "nice guys" claim they get overlooked by women. It's partially exasperation regarding social values and what people generally prize most in a mate, perhaps. It's a sense of, "why don't people value me? I have several good traits that make me attractive... yet, everyone values sex, and sex appeal more, and the ones who have this commodity, or are willing to engage in it, get what I really deserve more than they do". There's a sense of hatred perhaps with females devaluing other females who flaunt their sexuality or sleep around, because it may seem like they are "selling out" their values just to be prized by males (or indeed females) via an easy way in (sex).

This was very insightful, I never thought of it this way. Still though, it implies that these women see sex as a service. It's like a business deal, and tat kinda makes them whores. I'm having a hard time with the "all women are whores" deal. I'm pretty sure that many woman don't see it that way.

Originally Posted by Ti Dominant

There are people who do not desire sexual relationships who still socially view sluts as inferior.
Why would that be so, if people are predominantly against sluts because they are seen as threats?

People who do not desire sexual relationships often project that kind of superiority indiscriminately.
Regardless, the motive may switch there - I would bet that these specific people are more prone to disrespecting promiscuous men and women equally.

But to think that society in general organizes their prejudices based upon "prudence" is, to me, a vast overestimation of humanity.

Originally Posted by Ti Dominant

Even if it's the basic function of all organic life, that doesn't make it rational.
Our functions, on the contrary, seem quite irrational.

Name me one motivating influence that is based upon actual logic.