Do You Think They Exist Or Are These Only Myths?
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Do You Think They Exist Or Are These Only Myths?
I personally do not know if heaven and hell exist, and personally do not know if we even have an afterlife. It is also my opinion that we cannot currently prove nor disprove the existence of heaven and hell, but science might progress to a point sometime in the future where it can prove or disprove the afterlife.
Well i do believe on one hand, but on the other hand it just all seems like stupid made up myths to be honest.
They Say that you feel the pain and how they torture you in hell.
In heaven its the opposite.
So I think that after death we all are going to heaven, noone is going to hell, because we already are in one. Earth is our created by nature and mankind hell :]
Oh I have Many opinions On THis.. :S
I'll operate on the basis of Hell and Heaven existing for this view. Although I do not believe that their existence can be proven.
Hell is one of two things.
1. Earth is hell. We were all placed here to 'test our faith', so to speak. Those who prove 'faithful' ascend to Heaven. Those who do not, go through reincarnation until they prove their faith. Basically, remaining in hell.
2. The most common belief if I'm correct. Hell is where sinners are sent for eternal punishment for their lack of faith. While those who prove their faith, ascend to heaven.
Please note, I'm playing Devil's Advocate here. These are not my views. I simply want you lot to scrutinize them and give your opinions.
Hell is a myth, created to cause us to be easier controlled by the large churches and society. We create our own Hell, by making poor decisions, not letting go of pain and hates and wanting revenge.
Face it, if God were the loving father that the Bible says He is, then there would be no Hell, because no loving parent would place their errant child into a place as punishment and not give them a way to learn form it and redeem themselves. Not a good and loving parent that is! You want your child to learn from their mistakes.
Now Pergatory, that is worth considering.
If they do exist, I sure as Hell wanna go to Heaven.
I willingly believe that the damned are, in one sense, successful, rebels to the end; that the doors of hell are locked on the inside. All that are in Hell, choose it. Without that self-choice there could be no Hell. No soul that seriously and constantly desires joy will ever miss it. Those who seek find. To those who knock it is opened. And yourself, in a dark hour, may will [a grumbling] mood, embrace it. Ye can repent and come out of it again. But there may come a day when you can do that no longer. Then there will be no you left to criticize the mood...
—excerpted from The Problem of Pain and The Great Divorce, by C.S. Lewis (1898-1963), included in The Quotable Lewis, 1989 Tyndale
In a sense, the concept of hell gives meaning to our lives. It tells us that the moral choices we make day by day have eternal significance, that our behavior has consequences lasting to eternity, that God Himself takes our choices seriously. The doctrine of hell is not just some dusty theological holdover from the Middle Ages. It has significant social consequences. Without a conviction of ultimate justice, people's sense of moral obligation dissolves, and social bonds are broke.
Of course, these considerations are not the most important reason to believe in hell. Jesus repeatedly issued warnings that if we turn away from God in this life, we will be alienated from God eternally.
And yet, although "the wages of sin is death," Paul also says that "the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord" (Romans 6:23). While breath remains, it is never too late to turn to God in repentance, and when we ask for forgiveness, God eagerly grants it.
—excerpted from Answers to Your Kids' Questions, by Chuck Colson, 2000 Prison Fellowship Ministries.
We may rest assured that no one will suffer in hell who could by any means have been won to Christ in this life. God leaves no stone unturned to rescue all who would respond to the convicting and wooing of the Holy Spirit. As for the fate of [the damned] being eternal, it could not be otherwise. Death is not the cessation of existence but the continuation of the eternal being with which God lovingly endowed man--but now in painful separation from God and all else in utter darkness and loneliness.
—excerpted from In Defense of the Faith, by Dave Hunt, 1996 Harvest House Publishers
In the truest sense of the words Heaven and Hell no I don't believe there is a place where a man with a pitchfork and horned ears rules supreme while a "benevolent" God allows only those who worship him into paradise. Now as far as peoples own personal hells, yes, I do believe there are many variations of hell right here on this earth, And I also believe while some may glimpse a form of heaven that it's really only a mirage that can be taken away at the slightest upset.
You mean as specific physical places or states of mind? If the latter, then yes. As Robert Lowell said, "I myself am hell".