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    Are you a Lightworker or a Darkworker?

    So I have these ideas about what life is about. They're not necessarily original (as evident from the thread name), but nevertheless, I believe in them, so I wanted to share them with people and they can share their opinions with me.

    For those not familiar with these terms, they're from Steve Pavlina's blog and are used to describe two distinct mindsets that people resonate with when they go about things in life.

    (These terms are loosely defined and the following is my personal understanding of them)

    Darkworker: Egocentric. Driven in life to ascend as high as possible using the most efficient and effective means possible. Disregards other people and tends to see them as either obstacles or stepping stones. Sees diplomacy as a weak excuse exercised by those who lack the strength to make a "real" difference.
    Characterised by Power and Control.

    Lightworker: Altruistic. Driven in life to aid other people and society as much as possible usually at one's "personal expense". Frequently supports other people in their personal struggles and promotes peace and freedom. Sees absolute control as superfluous and instead encourages flexibility.
    Characterised by Love and Freedom.

    In basic terms: Darkworker = Selfish, Lightworker = Selfless

    You may notice that I didn't use words like "good" or "evil" in my descriptions, as I don't personally think that these two mindsets are moral-based, in the same sense that Yin & Yang do NOT represent good and evil, but rather complimentary yet opposite forces that form a whole.

    I don't believe that anyone is one extreme, but rather a blur between the two, with an innate preference of one over the other.

    Personally, I am, and have always been more of a Lightworker. I have always felt uncomfortable treading on people to get higher in life. This does not mean I would never do it, just that it clashes with my internal moral compass.

    However, what if we were to add a moral parameter to these two mindsets? A good and an evil? Well, then we get to modern society and its past, present and future.

    Those who are familiar with Steve Pavlina's book, will know his "Tri-Force" of Intelligence. If Lightworking is Love and Darkworking is Power, then the other key component is Truth - and the injection of truth (or lack thereof), determines the effect of the other two components.

    In other words, AWARENESS, whether personal or collective, determines the course that society took and will take from now on.

    I used to attribute awareness to Lightworking, as I was "all too familiar" with the "oppression" and "brainwashing" that went on in the world. However, the more I thought about it, the less true it appeared.

    Does "I don't need a reason to help others".... really actually HELP others?

    What if suddenly everyone dropped everything and devoted their time to helping people in need and sacrificing themselves so that everyone in the world became equal? Would that help the human race?

    A resounding NO - and so, that's where the notion of Yin & Yang came into the equation, along with its "moral-less" property.

    In other words, Lightworkers AND Darkworkers are needed in the world, and I don't just mean different people. It applies to the individual.

    "Light" Lightworkers and Darkworkers promote the truth and nothing but the truth. They spread the truth as far and as hard as they can because they THEMSELVES are aware of the good that the truth does for the world.

    "Dark" Lightworkers and Darkworkers hide behind falsehood and either passively or actively promote ignorance. They lack the awareness to identify what their actions are actually doing to society.

    So I wanna know what you are.

    Are you a Light Light, or a Dark Dark, or a Light Dark or a Dark Light?

    (I'm sure not many people will pick Dark-anything but if they do, it will make for an interesting discussion) :3

    Your thoughts please...
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    I'm pretty sure I'm a dim worker. XD I'm in the middle, and see both sides really. I like to strike a balance with things. :)

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    Dimworker xD Well, according to my post that's the best place to be anyway. Everything is balanced in the grand scheme of things I guess :p But judging from your reply I would say you are at least a Light Dimworker cos you like keeping it real :)
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    Lightworker. I do end up climbing the ladder. I never play dirty office politics. I just create useful tools or policies for my company and the upper managers appreciate it.

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    I like the way you describe most preferences as a blur between the two. I do know what you're talking about, I believe. In a group of people who use energy manipulation, I noticed a stark contrast between two people -- and one of them said that she doesn't like the way the other 'does it.' I knew exactly what she meant, too.

    I have always said that I walk the line. But I do lean toward the dark. I wouldn't say its a deliberate preference, but rather something innately inside of me. I envy those who are more 'light' - for many reasons. My own more rational ethics would probably be slightly more in line with how they are naturally, but unfortunately that is not me.

    Some people look at me and see an angel, some see a demon. Both are right, situationally.
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    After most of my life as a dark worker I'm now endevouring to be a lightworker.Redemption??? Maybe.But I took.Alot.Now I feel that it"s time to give back.Since many that suffered at my hands are faceless or no longer reachable I'll serve the world instead .Who knows if I'll make any difference but I must try.
    Now that may sound selfish, and it probably was in the beginning ,but now I do it cheerfully,and it feels good striving to do what I percieve to be the next right thing.Having said that,lol,I fall short sometimes, (ok quite frequently),and I think I just can't resist my dark side in certain situations

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    I started the same thread on another forum and it confused many people xD so it's cool I managed to convey my meaning to you guys successfully :p

    I think my own personal perception of the Lightworker-Darkworker concept has detoured slightly from the original author's intended representation and has adopted a more universal significance (i.e. Yin Yang). Whereas I think they were originally only really intended to distinguish Selfish-Selfless, I think they can also be applied to a Constructive-Destructive scale.

    An analogy I like to use to describe the significance of this is an RPG (or some other such game). This is a typical battle between good and evil. Within both "forces", there exist types of characters like Knights, Black Mages, Technicians and White Mages, let's say.

    The Knights and Black Mages specialise in killing enemies and destroying enemy structures, or are the Darkworkers.
    The Technicians and White Mages specialise in healing the wounded and repairing damage, or are the Lightworkers.

    Both Darkworkers AND Lightworkers are crucial to both forces. In this sense, you can say that Lightworking/Darkworking is your CLASS/JOB whereas whether you are fighting for Good or fighting for Evil is your ALIGNMENT.

    Going back to real life, you can either live for good or live for evil, but the way you do that depends on your innate "working" preference.

    One interesting thought I had though was whether Lightworkers generally have a tendency to do Good and Darkworkers to do Bad. What do you guys think? But I wanted to share the possibility of having a "Good Darkworker" and "Evil Lightworker" - and I think these combinations are DEFINITELY possible.

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    I would define darkworkers as people driven by self-love to self-realization and fulfilment, while lightworkers are people who are driven by loving others, in order to bring realization and fulfilment to the world. There have been plenty of lightworkers and darkworkers occupying each part of the scale, so I agree that neither side carries an inherent moral judgement (a darkworker won't care about being moral, as long as they're doing what makes them happiest). However, lightworkers and darkworkers do usually find each other's priorities and ways of dealing with the world incomprehensible at lower levels of development.

    As for your question about whether one tends toward good and the other evil... really, those terms could mean anything depending on one's own perspective. Evil according to who's standard? Good according to who's standard? They both operate according to different principles, and what good and evil mean in each perspective are quite different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Romantic View Post
    I would define darkworkers as people driven by self-love to self-realization and fulfilment, while lightworkers are people who are driven by loving others, in order to bring realization and fulfilment to the world. There have been plenty of lightworkers and darkworkers occupying each part of the scale, so I agree that neither side carries an inherent moral judgement (a darkworker won't care about being moral, as long as they're doing what makes them happiest). However, lightworkers and darkworkers do usually find each other's priorities and ways of dealing with the world incomprehensible at lower levels of development.

    As for your question about whether one tends toward good and the other evil... really, those terms could mean anything depending on one's own perspective. Evil according to who's standard? Good according to who's standard? They both operate according to different principles, and what good and evil mean in each perspective are quite different.
    It's been my experience that someone who resorts to the "perspective defence",in regard to good and evil is justifying and/or rationalizing their actions which they know in their hearts to be wrong.Every one of us is born with the instinct to know right from wrong.The only" perspective" in this instance is whether you are the perpetrator or the victum.So find some balls,pick a side and make a stand.You are only fooling yourself anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drakeadonian View Post
    It's been my experience that someone who resorts to the "perspective defence",in regard to good and evil is justifying and/or rationalizing their actions which they know in their hearts to be wrong.Every one of us is born with the instinct to know right from wrong.The only" perspective" in this instance is whether you are the perpetrator or the victum.So find some balls,pick a side and make a stand.You are only fooling yourself anyway.
    Really? Tell me, what is good? What is evil? Neither exist. They are all subjective interpretations of objective occurrences. You can certainly claim that you find something to be good, and another to be bad due to how you feel about it, but that really has no bearing on objective reality, it's just your personal interpretation of it.
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