Christianity vs. Judaism situational question

Originally Posted by Souled In

I didn't ask you for personal advice. I asked a specific question about religion. The first thing to do in counseling is to create trust, and, we don't have it. If you want to build it, stop doing what you are doing.

It isn't personal advice, and it isn't advice at all.

In fact my answer is probably the least advise giving and straightest of all answers since your questions don't actually have answers.

Originally Posted by sprinkles

It isn't personal advice, and it isn't advice at all.

In fact my answer is probably the least advise giving and straightest of all answers since your questions don't actually have answers.

I see you.

Originally Posted by Souled In

Your post really made me think of this:
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If you want to spout, please do it in your room, where you belong while grounded.

Thank you.

I'm sorry you didn't get that I was being sarcastic/sardonic in my statement. Sometimes it is hard to understand how people are responding in a text-format.
I was merely expressing what I was taught as a child growing up, in a rather bitter/sarcastic way.

Originally Posted by Nicole Hobbs

I'm sorry you didn't get that I was being sarcastic/sardonic in my statement. Sometimes it is hard to understand how people are responding in a text-format.
I was merely expressing what I was taught as a child growing up, in a rather bitter/sarcastic way.

Then I'm sorry you didn't figure out how to spend a couple extra seconds on a post to be understood.

Originally Posted by Souled In

Then I'm sorry you didn't figure out how to spend a couple extra seconds on a post to be understood.

And I'm sorry that you didn't have the intelligence to know how I was speaking of it based on how I wrote it to begin with, and had to proceed with being snarky in your response.

Originally Posted by Nicole Hobbs

And I'm sorry that you didn't have the intelligence to know how I was speaking of it based on how I wrote it to begin with, and had to proceed with being snarky in your response.

As you said before, you were being bitter and sarcastic in your response. Then you showed this again when you gave me the pity response saying you were "sorry I didn't understand."

Then, I was sarcastic back at you, using your same format saying "im sorry you were haphazard with your response."

Now, you are saying I don't have intelligence, because I didn't get you were being sarcastic...

as if knowing you were being sarcastic would have prevented me from giving it right back to you, even if I didn't know that obvious behavior.

Welcome to the forums.

Originally Posted by Souled In

Welcome to the forums.

Thanks.

The bottom line is that many religions punish thought crime. If you do not publicly testify to creed X, you're just no good as a human being.

Now, is that God's problem our humanity's problem. I'd keep on loving God and fuck everyone who tells you otherwise.

I'm going based on your original post about being saved.
The Bible says clearly what it takes to be saved:
Romans 10:9-10,
If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. ¹⁰ For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.

You have to believe that Jesus is Lord and that God sent him as a sacrifice for you sins. Jesus was sent to be the bridge between Himself and Us, the sinners. God had always planned to send Jesus to reconcile us back to him after Adam/Eve introduced sin to the world. The veil of the temple was torn in two when Jesus died, signifying that we no longer needed the temple to approach the throne of God, but God made it possible that we could approach him boldly and with grace by sending his son to die for us.

It says in the Gospel that this was originally intended for the Jews, the chosen people of God, but because they refused to accept "The Messiah" as a living/human being in Jesus, he gave salvation to all people, Gentiles included. It also says in Titus 3:4-7,
⁴ But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared, ⁵ he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit, ⁶ whom he poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior, ⁷ so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life.

We were not saved because of our good deeds, or because we are righteous, he saved us because he is merciful and "The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance." (2 Peter 3:9)

It's made clear that he sent Jesus as a gift/atoning sacrifice for the sins of the entire world, not just the Jews, and if we believe in our hearts and confess with our mouths that we believe/accept it, we are saved.

We pray In Jesus' Name, because this signifies the sacrifice that Jesus made for us, when he bore our sins on the cross and shows that we couldn't have a relationship with God, if not for Jesus dying on the cross. We don't HAVE to say In Jesus Name to be saved, we have to believe and confess. That is all. Praying and confessing in Jesus' name is a way for us to remember His sacrifice and why we are now able to approach the throne of God, without the Temple and Holy of Holies.

As for being saved if you believe in your heart that Jesus is all who He said he is and you have confessed your beliefs then you are saved.

If you are confused about what you should/should not do, I'd recommend reading the New Testament in it's entirety, because it lays out praying/sharing your faith. Paul especially dealt with much of the same pondering and questions when he was converted.

Originally Posted by gwennylou

I'm going based on your original post about being saved.
The Bible says clearly what it takes to be saved:
Romans 10:9-10,
If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. ¹⁰ For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.

You have to believe that Jesus is Lord and that God sent him as a sacrifice for you sins. Jesus was sent to be the bridge between Himself and Us, the sinners. God had always planned to send Jesus to reconcile us back to him after Adam/Eve introduced sin to the world. The veil of the temple was torn in two when Jesus died, signifying that we no longer needed the temple to approach the throne of God, but God made it possible that we could approach him boldly and with grace by sending his son to die for us.

It says in the Gospel that this was originally intended for the Jews, the chosen people of God, but because they refused to accept "The Messiah" as a living/human being in Jesus, he gave salvation to all people, Gentiles included. It also says in Titus 3:4-7,
⁴ But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared, ⁵ he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit, ⁶ whom he poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior, ⁷ so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life.

We were not saved because of our good deeds, or because we are righteous, he saved us because he is merciful and "The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance." (2 Peter 3:9)

It's made clear that he sent Jesus as a gift/atoning sacrifice for the sins of the entire world, not just the Jews, and if we believe in our hearts and confess with our mouths that we believe/accept it, we are saved.

We pray In Jesus' Name, because this signifies the sacrifice that Jesus made for us, when he bore our sins on the cross and shows that we couldn't have a relationship with God, if not for Jesus dying on the cross. We don't HAVE to say In Jesus Name to be saved, we have to believe and confess. That is all. Praying and confessing in Jesus' name is a way for us to remember His sacrifice and why we are now able to approach the throne of God, without the Temple and Holy of Holies.

As for being saved if you believe in your heart that Jesus is all who He said he is and you have confessed your beliefs then you are saved.

If you are confused about what you should/should not do, I'd recommend reading the New Testament in it's entirety, because it lays out praying/sharing your faith. Paul especially dealt with much of the same pondering and questions when he was converted.

Thank you for the post. I just had a unique thought. Would you please define Jesus? The reason I ask is because I think many people misunderstand what is meant by believing in Jesus.