My Cognitive Function results Te vs Fe help needed

Yeah .. this is effing confusing.

Your Cognitive Functions:
Extroverted Thinking (Te) |||||||||||||||||||| 9.24
Extroverted Intuition (Ne) ||||||||||||||||||| 8.92
Introverted Thinking (Ti) |||||||||||||| 6.47
Introverted Feeling (Fi) |||||||||||||| 6.25
Introverted Intuition (Ni) ||||||||||||| 5.98
Extroverted Feeling (Fe) ||||||||||| 4.98
Extroverted Sensation (Se) ||||||||| 3.57
Introverted Sensation (Si) |||||| 2.47

Based on your cognitive functions, your type is most likely:
Most Likely: ENTJ
or Second Possibility: ENTP
or Third Possibility: INTP

Here's the other


Cognitive Process Level of Development (Preference, Skill and Frequency of Use)
extraverted Sensing (Se) ***************************** (29)
average use
introverted Sensing (Si) ************** (14.9)
unused
extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ********************************** (34.3)
good use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) **************************************** (40.5)
excellent use
extraverted Thinking (Te) ******************************** (32.3)
good use
introverted Thinking (Ti) ************************* (25.2)
average use
extraverted Feeling (Fe) *********************************** (35.1)
good use
introverted Feeling (Fi) ***************************** (29.1)
average use


Ever since I started re-taking my congnitive function tests etc etc ....

My results are deviating more and more towards the ENTJ side ... WTF ! ??? This is extremely disconcerting ....

A lot of people have been talking about my use of logic, and rational thought ... plus I'm a bit of an emotional wreck .. because of a bad marriage situation.

This ... this is me 100% :/

Although ENTJs are not naturally tuned into other people's feelings, these individuals frequently have very strong sentimental streaks. Often these sentiments are very powerful to the ENTJ, although they will likely hide it from general knowledge, believing the feelings to be a weakness. Because the world of feelings and values is not where the ENTJ naturally functions, they may sometimes make value judgments and hold onto submerged emotions which are ill-founded and inappropriate, and will cause them problems - sometimes rather serious problems.

ENTJs love to interact with people. As Extroverts, they're energized and stimulated primarily externally. There's nothing more enjoyable and satisfying to the ENTJ than having a lively, challenging conversation. They especially respect people who are able to stand up to the ENTJ, and argue persuasively for their point of view. There aren't too many people who will do so, however, because the ENTJ is a very forceful and dynamic presence who has a tremendous amount of self-confidence and excellent verbal communication skills. Even the most confident individuals may experience moments of self-doubt when debating a point with an ENTJ.

Can it be true for ENFJ's as well ??

Is this really an overlap in the descriptions?

I know I've been through a series of mistypes ... I need help. The Te/Fe issue is bugging the crap out of me.

And no ... when I really think about it .. I'm a very good judge of character, but I can't always tell what someone is feeling .. but sometimes I can ... My Fe/Te is balanced .. but how is that possible ??

My corporate life is what gave me the most satisfaction in life ... especially when I was a Project Manager in-charge of a team of 9 individuals planning, strategizing and mobilizing.

For me .. it's sometimes very easy to look through someone else's feelings and get to the real crux of the matter .. the problem. Over-use of my giving nature makes me miserable in the long run.



I'm confused. Any help would be appreciated.

What's wrong with ENTJ? It seems you're more of a thinker than a feeler based on what you've said.

However, since you're going through a difficult emotional time, you might actually be a Feeler who has reverted to Thinking (this happens to people under great emotional stress, vice versa for T to F).

Remember that Fe is a function dealing with compassion, social values, and harmony. This is not Fi.

And no ... when I really think about it .. I'm a very good judge of character, but I can't always tell what someone is feeling .. but sometimes I can ... My Fe/Te is balanced .. but how is that possible ??

Sounds like you're working off of a faulty stereotype, for that part at least. Fe is not about knowing what others are feeling, but rather a focus on social harmony and group values. Te is about logical values, or in other words, rules and procedures. If your focus is on logical structure (say, corporate structure) then you're more Te, but if your focus is on social structure (Values and the morals of the group) then you're more Fe.

It is entirely possible to score equal or wacky on cognitive tests, because cognitive function tests measure cognitive strength, not cognitive preference. I often score Ni>Ne>Fe>Fi and other wacky results, but in my mind I innately think using Ni, and my focus is naturally Fe. I am adept at using Fi and Ne, but I do not rely on them unless under stress or in certain circumstances.

I trust you can do your own research if you're unclear on what the functions mean.

ENTJ is a type that a lot of people tend to mistype as, as far as I know. This does not prevent you from actually being ENTJ though. stereotypically, ENTJ might mean to someone "Good with people, smart, not ruled by emotions, always on time" which is probably why people mistype as it.

You do seem like an NT, but I do not know you and I cannot tell you what you are. Only you can do that.

Also just because you're test scores came out so close - it may be just that you are balanced in using your cognitive processes.

Honestly, if you are stressed right now, NOW is not the time to try to figure out your type. We all act different under stress. When I was super stressed two years ago, I questioned by type. I was acting completely different.....
I have some notes from a time management class that uses MBTI. Unfortunately I lost some of my papers so the ENTJ profile under stress is missing. But the point will be there... when under stress, we don't act ourselves.


MBTI Preferences and Stress

N's:
When stressed - Begins to get scattered, misses important facts, becomes fiercely independent, begins to be less observant and out of touch, starts to rearrange reality.

During Burnout - Becomes dull and unimaginative, seizes one fact as total reality, loses big picture framework, seizes a negative possibility as the whole reality.
____________
T's:
When stressed - Becomes more opinionated, loses touch with feelings, defensive wall goes up, is more determined to convince, fixedly rejects opposing data.

During Burnout - Wallows in negative feelings, becomes moody, sees all "good or all bad" (no gray), becomes emotionally vulnerable, feels resentful and unappreciated.

___________
F's:
When stressed - feels emotionally vulnerable, wants to avoid the "source", begins to over-react, wants/demands support and approval, becomes less considerate.

During burnout - Becomes impersonal, withdraws, denounces "all good or all bad", expresses coldness or uncaring, is unforgiving and unrelenting, drops into a state of numbness or apathy.
___________

Too much stress in an ENFJ can express itself behaviorally as:
Low self esteem and sullen rejection of others:
Stressed ENFJs believe that people are no damn good, totally untrustworthy. That's because the ENFJ is no damn good and totally untrustworthy. The ENFJ's theme song becomes "Nobody Likes Me, Everybody Hates Me, Guess I'll Go Eat Worms..."

An almost blind denial of negative reality:
ENFJs would almost rather martyr themselves than accept a negative truth about anyone - especially a trusted friend or relative. "Sucker" tends to be written all over them; and when someone else acts in a negative way, withdrawal, sulkiness, bitterness, unforgiveness, absolutism all command the ENFJs behaviors.

Fatigue, anger, bitterness and unforgiveness take center stage:
When the ENFJ is caught in too much stress, there are not many negotiables. The positive quickly turns toxic and is easily spewed on or towards others. The the ENFJ makes a hasty retreat into non-communication that ranges from bitterness to "I'll not forget today and I'll get even."


Now I know that sounds negative - but when each type is under stress, we all do our share of negative acts.
My point from all this is you are not yourself when under stress and you may have better luck and focus later on in time.

@SilentScream Oh its so impossible for me to believe ur not an ENFJ XD

Fe is about you, your desires and the people....and so it depends a whole lot on the people around you.....Fe grows and enhances if you have healthy relationships with people....Fe is maintained through practice, the more you practice the better it gets.....but that requires the acceptance of ur Fe use by people around u, they must understand and listen and consciously or subconsciously fulfill or try to fulfill those lots of expectations that come from the Fe user, those expectations regarding people. If this is not done, then naturally the person starts making attempts to manage the surrounding around him, n starts to think of the reasons behind their behavior, it slowly goes from feelings to logic, from Fe to Te.

And if ur F becomes a chaos than u use T to come out of it. Some part of your life, this probably happened....and so ur Te also developed, so u have both well developed Fe and Te. But the origins are Fe.

Sometimes they only way out of emotional baggage that comes with people is to naturally shift from Fe to Te. But only if the baggage is too heavy. But ur Ni always remained intact, it went along with the Fe and the Te, so using Te wasnt a big problem at all, to the point that it seemed natural. I also think that ur Fe comes with a streak of Se the reason being ur higher Se scores, which means people and lots of practical possibilities and may also be a reason which transformed to the Te use for a while.

ENTJs love to interact with people. As Extroverts, they're energized and stimulated primarily externally. There's nothing more enjoyable and satisfying to the ENTJ than having a lively, challenging conversation. They especially respect people who are able to stand up to the ENTJ, and argue persuasively for their point of view. There aren't too many people who will do so, however, because the ENTJ is a very forceful and dynamic presence who has a tremendous amount of self-confidence and excellent verbal communication skills. Even the most confident individuals may experience moments of self-doubt when debating a point with an ENTJ.

I cant say abt the first paragraph but this seems to be true abt the ENFJs too.

Im sorry if i have said anything wrong, i hope it helped :)

Good Luck :)

Originally Posted by renna

___________

Too much stress in an ENFJ can express itself behaviorally as:
Low self esteem and sullen rejection of others:
Stressed ENFJs believe that people are no damn good, totally untrustworthy. That's because the ENFJ is no damn good and totally untrustworthy. The ENFJ's theme song becomes "Nobody Likes Me, Everybody Hates Me, Guess I'll Go Eat Worms..."

An almost blind denial of negative reality:
ENFJs would almost rather martyr themselves than accept a negative truth about anyone - especially a trusted friend or relative. "Sucker" tends to be written all over them; and when someone else acts in a negative way, withdrawal, sulkiness, bitterness, unforgiveness, absolutism all command the ENFJs behaviors.

Fatigue, anger, bitterness and unforgiveness take center stage:
When the ENFJ is caught in too much stress, there are not many negotiables. The positive quickly turns toxic and is easily spewed on or towards others. The the ENFJ makes a hasty retreat into non-communication that ranges from bitterness to "I'll not forget today and I'll get even." .

Ummm. The above doesn't sound right. I've been hanging out with the ENFJ's for the past 2 months and we've discussed everything from anger, to stress, to physical manifestations of the stress ... Some of these did come up, but I don't really see how all of this is related to Fe vs Te in any way?

Also, the above are generalizations of how potentially any individual of any type would react to stressors in life - and not specific to ENFJ's.

Lastly, stress and how a person acts under stress is also greatly influenced by Enneagrams. So a type 2 ENFJ under stress will act very differently from a Type 6 ENFJ.

How the Enneagram Personality System Works

The Direction of Stress or Disintegration for each type is indicated by the sequence of numbers 1-4-2-8-5-7-1. This means that an average to unhealthy One under stress will eventually behave like an average to unhealthy Four; an average to unhealthy Four will act out their stress like an average to unhealthy Two; an average to unhealthy Two will act out under stress like an Eight, an Eight will act out under stress like a Five, a Five will act out like a Seven, and a Seven will act out like a One. (An easy way to remember the sequence is to realize that 1-4 or 14 doubles to 28, and that doubles to 57—or almost so. Thus, 1-4-2-8-5-7—and the sequence returns to 1 and begins again.) Likewise, on the equilateral triangle, the sequence is 9-6-3-9: a stressed out Nine will act out like a Six, a stressed out Six will act out like a Three, and a stressed out Three will act out like a Nine. (You can remember this sequence if you think of the numerical values diminishing as the types become more stressed and reactive. For a longer explanation and examples, see Personality Types, 47-52, 413-8.) You can see how this works by following the direction of the arrows on the following Enneagram.

I was much more concerned about the differences between Fe and Te and my personal use of the both. However, I have concluded after reflection that it's not Te ... but a highly developed Ni-Ti that seems like Te.

Thanks :)

OP: Looking only at your tests, so please don't be offended if something I say jars with your current self-concept, I did not look at your actual listed type and skim all the extra info until after I examined your test scores.

The huge difference in your Fe score between one test and the other seems to suggest it was something about the test, not you, that made the difference. Thus I'd be more skeptical of Fe as a dominating presence in your psyche compared to other function perspectives. Other functions were more consistent in terms of comparative strengths.

Also, you mention that you are undergoing a trying time in your life, and these kind of things can impact type reads. Fe perspective is actually something I've got within my main makeup (due to overdevelopment), but this past spring I was emotionally having a rough time and feeling very alone and thus valuing/desiring relationships more highly, and when I answered anonymously a list of type-exploring questions on another site, the initial respondents all identified me as some sort of Fe-primary. Current life situation can definitely impact/color our type perspective and what we're focusing on. It's possible it could go other ways too.

Out of both T functions, it looks to me like Te always dominates over Ti. The second test, both N scores are high; apparently whatever aspect of N you resonate with was inherent in both questions sets, since this was not reflected in the other test.

Your Si is consistently low (inferior) in both, which according to theory would mean that your Pe function should be high (dom or aux).

Your posting style reads as very T to me.

Because of all this, I'd lean toward ENTP or ENTJ. Since your Te is consistently strong, I'd lean toward ENTJ.

(Just my best guess, without having talked to you in person or met/observed you.)

EDIT: Now going back and reading the other stuff you posted, you mention a lot of connection with the ENTJ approach to life. Based on your description, you sound waaaaay more ENTJ than ENFJ to me. The most comfortable approach for you is getting down to problems and issues and resolving them; you are able to work through relational things as well, it sounds like, but it's not your preferred focus and eventually drains you. ENFJs tend to live more for the relational issues when it comes to team management.

I'm also feeling ENTJ. And not just because my test told you so. You sound more T than F, IMO.