Introverted Thinking vs Extraverted Thinking

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Eh.... my two most dominant functions are Te and Ti. So yeah... Take your pick.

Originally Posted by Bear

Eh.... my two most dominant functions are Te and Ti. So yeah... Take your pick.

How did you manage to improve Ti?

Originally Posted by Sunless

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I deduced it.

Originally Posted by Deagalman

How did you manage to improve Ti?

I suspect the current function theory is presented simply because it was there to be presented. I've noticed some anomalies within personality groups that I think is best explained buy them possessing radically different functional stacks than the theory suggests or maybe even allows for.

For instance I read other ENTJs writing and recognize some similarities... other ENTJs read me and have no problem seeing me as ENTJ, but I'm just not the same on some level. Most of the time people recognizing me as an ENTJ as a "Well.. he must be because there's simply no other extroverted thinker he could be" feel to it. A self analysis of my writing style tells me that I often express myself in a Ti fashion.

I think it might have been a childhood development thing. I pushed my emotions to the bottom of the barrel and honed my ability to read people and situations, and see what made them tic, how to break them down, etc. Perhaps it was a defensive measure... or perhaps it's just the way I was born.

These descriptions aren't too bad:

Extraverted Thinking

Introverted Thinking

This isn't from firsthand experience since neither function is developed well in me, but I can see the difference empirically between the way my INTP fiance and INTJ mom reason things. Mom is much more point A to point B, step by step, linear logic.

Originally Posted by Grim

I suspect the current function theory is presented simply because it was there to be presented. I've noticed some anomalies within personality groups that I think is best explained buy them possessing radically different functional stacks than the theory suggests or maybe even allows for.

For instance I read other ENTJs writing and recognize some similarities... other ENTJs read me and have no problem seeing me as ENTJ, but I'm just not the same on some level. Most of the time people recognizing me as an ENTJ as a "Well.. he must be because there's simply no other extroverted thinker he could be" feel to it. A self analysis of my writing style tells me that I often express myself in a Ti fashion.

I think it might have been a childhood development thing. I pushed my emotions to the bottom of the barrel and honed my ability to read people and situations, and see what made them tic, how to break them down, etc. Perhaps it was a defensive measure... or perhaps it's just the way I was born.

I also dual weild Ti and Te quite effectively, and I have been pondering this for some time. Might be my fourteen years old close friendship with an INTJ that has made me build these skills.

How would one express oneself in a Ti fashion? What makes this different from expressing yourself in a Te fashion?

Let me try differentiate Te and Ti in a simple way... Really appreciate comments...

Ti - Believing based on logic

Te - Expressing/Creating Action based on Logic

You can't have both. The function tests are poor and give bad results. Often Te is listed as an organization skill. Ti is perfectly capable of that too, so that's why it may appear you use both.

It basically comes down to that Te requires external validation and evidence to come to it's conclusions. Ti doesn't. It may be hard to grasp that. But I bet if you are Ti user, you've probably clashed with a Te user without realizing why. And vice versa. Both probably wondering what is wrong with the other person.

Originally Posted by unleashthehounds

You can't have both. The function tests are poor and give bad results. Often Te is listed as an organization skill. Ti is perfectly capable of that too, so that's why it may appear you use both.

It basically comes down to that Te requires external validation and evidence to come to it's conclusions. Ti doesn't. It may be hard to grasp that. But I bet if you are Ti user, you've probably clashed with a Te user without realizing why. And vice versa. Both probably wondering what is wrong with the other person.

So Ti doesn't need external validation? Is that the whole difference between Ti and Te? Doesn't sound hollistic enough