Fe Explained

Originally Posted by Zero11

So Fe are Non-questioned driving Values in contrast to Fi?

From what I understand about the INTJ perspective - especially the Ni + Fi loop, I would say this statement is correct. Just keep in mind that these values are applied externally, and then to ourselves as if they were external. It's as if we create a values globe and expect everything to line up with it, even ourselves.

Originally Posted by FreeSpirit

Fe sounds bangin'. Where can I get me some?

You don't need any. You are already awesome as you are!

Originally Posted by Zero11

So Fe are Non-questioned driving Values in contrast to Fi?

couldn't you technically argue that all functions are not "non-questioned" driving modes? if you really wanted to break them down you'd be left with a question that is just as unanswerable.

couldn't you say that each function isn't directly coming from yourself, even one's that are supposedly unconscious, since even your unconscious functions and perspectives would be influenced by something.

@celticstained

Originally Posted by Nobleheart

Fe users have strong opinions, but are often a mystery to themselves - assuming they bother to question their own feelings (Fi) because Fe tells them how they should feel.

This was my reference and it means that external applied values are stronger than introverted ones. Cause they are not build up internally.

Originally Posted by celticstained

couldn't you technically argue that all functions are not "non-questioned" driving modes? if you really wanted to break them down you'd be left with a question that is just as unanswerable.

couldn't you say that each function isn't directly coming from yourself, even one's that are supposedly unconscious, since even your unconscious functions and perspectives would be influenced by something.

Originally Posted by Zero11

This was my reference and it means that external applied values are stronger than introverted ones. Cause they are not build up internally.

You are both right, but each of you is approaching this from your own perspective. To an INFJ, Fe is inherent. To an INTJ, Fe is foreign. It's going to look different to each of you, considering INFJ has an inside perspective and INTJ an outside perspective. Neither of these changes the nature of Fe, and you are both correct. However, this difference of perspective is often the reason for confusion in the description of functions as we are using the same words to describe different points of view.

Could someone please compare the manifestations of a dom-Fe, inferior Fe and shadow-Fe?

Originally Posted by Muser

Could someone please compare the manifestations of a dom-Fe, inferior Fe and shadow-Fe?

that would be pretty hard to do since an "unhealthy" person could be Fe dom, but could present it in a way that implied an inferior Fe, or a "shadow Fe", and vice versa throughout... sorry i can't help more than that... you could go and look through the sub forums that have Fe dom (ENFJ/ESFJ), those that have shadow Fe, and inferior Fe to get a better picture.

Originally Posted by celticstained

that would be pretty hard to do since an "unhealthy" person could be Fe dom, but could present it in a way that implied an inferior Fe, or a "shadow Fe", and vice versa throughout... sorry i can't help more than that... you could go and look through the sub forums that have Fe dom (ENFJ/ESFJ), those that have shadow Fe, and inferior Fe to get a better picture.

Thanks for that, celticstained. I guess, more than anything, I was putting that request up as a challenge to see if anyone could do it. It'd be difficult for the reasons you described, I agree.

Could someone please compare the manifestations of a dom-Fe, inferior Fe and shadow-Fe?

It may not be exactly what you're looking for, but the PerC thread "Understanding the Archetypes involving the eight functions of type" offers John Beebe's interpretation of Fe-manifestation from user Eric B's perspective. I'm ripping it out of context and much of this is direct quotes, but here is the gist of the role Fe plays:

Hero (dominant process)
Fe (ExFJ): The environment must be socially friendly

Parent (auxiliary process)
Fe (IxFJ): Instructing others on group ethics or values

Pueur (tertiary process)
Fe (ExTP): childlike when connecting with others

Anima (inferior process)
IxTP's might feel inferior in humane (personal) matters (including one's standing in social groups).

Originally Posted by zenity

It may not be exactly what you're looking for, but the PerC thread "Understanding the Archetypes involving the eight functions of type" offers John Beebe's interpretation of Fe-manifestation from user Eric B's perspective. I'm ripping it out of context and much of this is direct quotes, but here is the gist of the role Fe plays:

Hero (dominant process)
Fe (ExFJ): The environment must be socially friendly

Parent (auxiliary process)
Fe (IxFJ): Instructing others on group ethics or values

Pueur (tertiary process)
Fe (ExTP): childlike when connecting with others

Anima (inferior process)
IxTP's might feel inferior in humane (personal) matters (including one's standing in social groups).

Ah, I forgot about Eric B's essay. Thanks for picking this out...it's pretty much what I was hoping for. :)

By the way, a pretty in-depth analysis of Fe in INTPs by Dr. A.J. Drenth, posted by SilverRose.
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