Ni, Fe, Te versus Ne, Fi, Ti

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Ni, Fe, Te versus Ne, Fi, Ti

    My top three functions in order are Ne, Fi, Ti. Has anyone on here gotten Ni, Fe, Te? I am curious to analyze this person if they exist. Also if you got the same as me then let me know so we can chitchat about type theory.



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    INFJ - The Protectors

    I haven't tested Ni, Fe, Te, but am an INFJ, so in one sense, that's me, as the tertiary function according to some theories doesn't have any direction.

    So, shoot.
    punky16 thanked this post.

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    INTJ - The Scientists

    There is always order in expression. It's kind of the way of the universe. If you know this, what exactly are you getting at?

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Quote Originally Posted by penchant View Post
    I haven't tested Ni, Fe, Te, but am an INFJ, so in one sense, that's me, as the tertiary function according to some theories doesn't have any direction.

    So, shoot.
    Now I am on the spot and I don't know what to say...lol. Um hi. Honestly I thought it didnt exist. Ok...take this test and post your results:
    http://www.keys2cognition.com/explore.htm

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    INFJ - The Protectors

    Now that could be interesting. I took that test earlier this year, and got the following,

    Code:
    extraverted Sensing (Se) *******************  (19.8) 
    limited use 
    introverted Sensing (Si) ********************  (20.9) 
    limited use 
    extraverted Intuiting (Ne) **********************************  (34.3) 
    good use 
    introverted Intuiting (Ni) **********************************  (34.3) 
    good use 
    extraverted Thinking (Te) ********************************  (32.9) 
    good use 
    introverted Thinking (Ti) **************************************  (38.3) 
    excellent use 
    extraverted Feeling (Fe) ********************************  (32.3) 
    good use 
    introverted Feeling (Fi) **************************  (26.8)
    average use
    
    INTP (ENTP, INTJ)
    but I might get different results this time, I think, so I'll try again and post when I'm done...

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Quote Originally Posted by penchant View Post
    Now that could be interesting. I took that test earlier this year, and got the following,

    Code:
    extraverted Sensing (Se) *******************  (19.8) 
    limited use 
    introverted Sensing (Si) ********************  (20.9) 
    limited use 
    extraverted Intuiting (Ne) **********************************  (34.3) 
    good use 
    introverted Intuiting (Ni) **********************************  (34.3) 
    good use 
    extraverted Thinking (Te) ********************************  (32.9) 
    good use 
    introverted Thinking (Ti) **************************************  (38.3) 
    excellent use 
    extraverted Feeling (Fe) ********************************  (32.3) 
    good use 
    introverted Feeling (Fi) **************************  (26.8)
    average use
    
    INTP (ENTP, INTJ)
    but I might get different results this time, I think, so I'll try again and post when I'm done...
    Wow...you are high on every category. Maybe this test is moot.

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Well just scrap that test then and pick out which functions you think you do and which ones you don't from this list of definitions here I will demonstrate:

    My order is Ne, Ti, Fe, Si, Fi, Ni, Te, Se


    Function Description
    Se - extraverted sensing Experiencing the immediate context; noticing changes and opportunied for action; being drawn to act on the physical world; accumulating experiences; scanning for visible reactions and relevant data; recognizing "what is"
    Si - introverted sensing Reviewing past experiences; "what is" evoking "what was"; seeking detailed information and links to what is known; recalling stored impressions; accumulating data; recognizing the way things have always been

    Ne - extraverted intuiting
    Interpreting situations and relationships; picking up meanings and interconnections; being drawn to change "what is " for "what could possibly be"; noticing what is not said and threads of meaning emerging across multiple contexts
    Ni - introverted intuiting Foreseeing implications and likely effects without external data; realizing "what will be"; conceptualizing new ways of seeing things; envisioning transformations; getting an image of profound meaning or far-reaching symbols
    Te - extraverted thinking Ordering; organizing for efficiency; systematzing; aplying logic; structuring; checking for consequences; monitoring for standards or specifications being met; setting boundaries, guidelines, and parameters, deciding if something isworking or not

    Ti - introverted thinking
    Analyzing; categorizing; evaluating according to principles and whether something fits the framework or model; figuring out the principles on which something works; checking for inconsistencies; clarying definitions to get more precision
    Fe - extraverted feeling Connecting; considering others and the group - organizing to meet their needs and honor their values; adjusting and accommodating others; deciding if something is appropriate or acceptable to others
    Fi -introverted feeling Valuing; considering importance and worth; reviewing for incongruity; evaluating something based on the truths on which it is based; clarifying values to achieve accord; deciding if something is of significance and worth standing up for.

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    INFJ - The Protectors

    So here's the second testing. I don't remember my mood last time, but this time I'm tired and a bit down, so not the perfect introspection time. Anyhow...

    Code:
    extraverted Sensing (Se) 	*******************  (19.7)
    limited use
    introverted Sensing (Si) 	********************************  (32.8)
    good use
    extraverted Intuiting (Ne) 	*********************************************  (45.3)
    excellent use
    introverted Intuiting (Ni) 	************************************  (36.8)
    excellent use
    extraverted Thinking (Te) 	***************************  (27.8)
    average use
    introverted Thinking (Ti) 	***************************  (27.1)
    average use
    extraverted Feeling (Fe) 	**************************  (26.8)
    average use
    introverted Feeling (Fi) 	***********************  (23.9)
    limited use
    
    INTP (ENTP, INFP)
    And, no, your are perfectly right that the test is not very reliable, and best used only as a suggestion as where to start looking for your type. I'm not Ne-dominant, that's for sure!

    From introspection so far, I'd say my strength order is more like:

    Ni - Ti - Te - Fe - Fi - Se - Ne - Si

    So, as you see my strength order is not the same as my preference order, since my Fe has been suppressed during childhood and I think that has channeled as Ti and Te instead. I might also be off on the order somewhat.

    I'd guess the big difference between us would be that I am Ni-dominant and you are Ne-dominant. And I just don't get how Ne works - I understand it in theory, but not in practice...

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    INFJ - The Protectors

    Just an observation... Your interaction style does strike me as rather Directive (as opposed to Informative). Admittedly, this is the internet, so it might be the context, but it is still rather odd for a female ENTP. I would check out Determing Your Type Made Easy if I were you... Where do you stand on interaction style and temperament in relation to Functianalysts descriptions?

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    INFJ - The Protectors

    Quote Originally Posted by punky16 View Post
    My top three functions in order are Ne, Fi, Ti.
    It is not uncommon to get a shadow function in your top three on that test. I have a theory that these are the byproduct of your main functions working in tandem. For example, your Fi might be more of your Ti than not because both are actually quite similar in how they operate as right brained reasoning functions. Mix a little Fe with Ti, and you've got an approximation of Fi with respect to the questions the test asks.

    Also, the way the Fi questions are worded, it seems that a lot of people score very high on Fi, even when they don't on other tests. It seems to be asking if you have emotions more so than if you have a well developed Fi.

    Therefore, I wouldn't hold that test as gospel on function usage. Just a good ballpark estimator.

    Most importantly, don't confuse usage with preference. My Ni is better developed than my Fe, but that doesn't mean I prefer Ni over Fe. This test attempts to measure usage, not preference. It's an important distinction.

    However, I know a guy who is Ni, equally Fe Te, then Si. He's very much in the middle of INFJ and INTJ development but with clear Si over Se as an inferior function. He's brilliant. He's also mildly schizophrenic, and has to take medication for it. I don't think those are functions that can work together in a healthy individual.
    It makes an individual have constant conflict between how things should be and could be, with their mind constantly processing the paralax.


 
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