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    Subliminal messages in Django Unchained?



    Very interesting review above. The black people I know who listened to it agree with what he said. Its 40 minutes long but worth the listen imo.

    What do you think of his review?
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    Can we get a summary of exactly what you're trying to talk about?
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    I'm not sure what to make of this, but i can't say that i find this Tariq Nasheed guy particularly convincing. It's mostly conspiracy theories with little to no evidence to back it up, and some flawed reasoning to top it off.

    He comes across as if he's projecting his own preoccupation with racial issues onto the movie. Sure, race is clearly a central topic in the film, and it's still very much an issue in today's society, but he comes across as if he's looking for patterns of institutional racism so hard that he sees them everywhere, even when they might not actually be there.

    I'm not saying that institutional racism isn't a real thing, and it's possible that some of the things this man says are true. It's certainly an interesting thought that movies like this tend to have a white character who is in fact the real hero of the story, in this case Waltz. It's also an interesting thought that any black on white violence needs to be non-confrontational, either by making the act comedic or by having the victim be someone the audience doesn't identify with or looks down on... but there's a more plausible explanation that isn't even really considered, namely that this is simply Tarantino's style: his films have always had comedic yet gruesome scenes, and he likes anti-heroes and shady characters. This is what i mean with seeing racial motives when they're not necessarily there.

    My biggest gripe is that he uses flawed logic.
    He proposes that DiCaprio's character in Django is reflective of Tarantino's personality, because Tarantino is known to sometimes puts his own personality into his characters.
    Right... some Italians are plumbers, therefore all plumbers are Italian. Brilliant!
    That really discredits anything else he has to say in the video.
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    Subliminal Messages, white people finally get why the imagery of Uncle Ben's and Aunt Jemima are extremely racist. Also, I guess The owner of the Plantation could've had the given name Life. So, when talking about Life's land, it would come out as Life's plantation, plantation life, that's where we "Dr. King" Shultz and DJaango need to go to. Anyone who has watched the movie Airplane!, knows the scene, in the cockpit, with the pilots Roger Mourdock and Clarence Oveur, have that word play game, Airplane! (1980) - Memorable quotes. So, when the place "Dr. King" Shultz and Djaango need to go to is John Candie's Land, Candyland, that was a promotion of Milton Bradley. Trying not to give things away here, but at the end, there's a silhouette of seven people, that is in reference to the film the Magnificent Seven. Tarentino always references other films because he's a film geek, and the film itself is a mash up of the spaghetti western , with the plot of slave as bounty hunter, and blaxploitation with the mostly Black cast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cephalonimbus View Post
    I'm not sure what to make of this, but i can't say that i find this Tariq Nasheed guy particularly convincing. It's mostly conspiracy theories with little to no evidence to back it up, and some flawed reasoning to top it off.

    He comes across as if he's projecting his own preoccupation with racial issues onto the movie. Sure, race is clearly a central topic in the film, and it's still very much an issue in today's society, but he comes across as if he's looking for patterns of institutional racism so hard that he sees them everywhere, even when they might not actually be there.

    I'm not saying that institutional racism isn't a real thing, and it's possible that some of the things this man says are true. It's certainly an interesting thought that movies like this tend to have a white character who is in fact the real hero of the story, in this case Waltz. It's also an interesting thought that any black on white violence needs to be non-confrontational, either by making the act comedic or by having the victim be someone the audience doesn't identify with or looks down on... but there's a more plausible explanation that isn't even really considered, namely that this is simply Tarantino's style: his films have always had comedic yet gruesome scenes, and he likes anti-heroes and shady characters. This is what i mean with seeing racial motives when they're not necessarily there.

    My biggest gripe is that he uses flawed logic.
    He proposes that DiCaprio's character in Django is reflective of Tarantino's personality, because Tarantino is known to sometimes puts his own personality into his characters.
    Right... some Italians are plumbers, therefore all plumbers are Italian. Brilliant!
    That really discredits anything else he has to say in the video.
    I dont know about the other stuff, but the bolded was obvious imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qvinde View Post


    Very interesting review above. The black people I know who listened to it agree with what he said. Its 40 minutes long but worth the listen imo.

    What do you think of his review?
    Listened to it awhile back. I agree generally with the interview. It makes more sense if you read the script though.
    The things he says really come into view then. Firpo Carr asks some excellent questions about Tarantino's intentions in this
    video.


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    so this dude is complaining about racial bigotry in a film about slaves

    idiotic video

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    Quote Originally Posted by onebelo View Post
    so this dude is complaining about racial bigotry in a film about slaves

    idiotic video
    LOL. You're clearly not smart enough to 'get it'. Poor lil tink tink.
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    The same Tarantino that has been accused of wanting to be black by black people in the past?

    People need to makes up their minds.

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    Besides the part about the black slaves of Candieland liking Leonardo's character in the movie, everything else that was said was spot on.


 
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