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Jawz's ENFJ ---> ENTP Type switch explanation
by , 06-04-2012 at 11:40 AM (1171 Views)
[CENTER][B]Why an ENTP can mistype as an ENFJ[/B][/CENTER]
These aren't really "closing" comments on my recent type change, and it may still not be very convincing to people reading it. But the very interesting thing here is to note how another ENTP [the blogger] has recognized the same dilemma I've been going through for several years of my life.
[QUOTE]However, things can get out of hand in the tertiary and inferior range. When someone is under stress, as Naomi Quenk describes, the tertiary or inferior can erupt, assuming a kind of bizarre dominance in the person’s personality. Because these functions are very restricted, it will not look like the function does for someone who has it as a naturally dominant attitude.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]For example, an ENTP having a bad Fe ‘episode’ will look like an ugly caricature of a normal Extraverted Feeler. They may be bizarrely obsessed with pleasing other people. They may be terrified of invoking social wrath. When this ‘episode’ combines with the inferior troubles of Introverted Sensation, they will experience panic about change – catastrophizing over the results of social mishaps. Extraverted Intuition, now the slave of bizarre Fe and Si will aggressively feed a cycle of catastrophic imaginings about inevitable the outcomes of social problems. Like a deer in the headlights, social obligations and social conflict will loom to infinite sizes and run them down in the street. They go from having control of a limited Fe attitude to being completely dominated by an ugly contortion of it. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Bill Murray plays this situation perfectly in Lost in Translation, when he calls his wife – he is hand-cuffed by her torrent of social demands and the expectations placed on him by his children. In the end, even though he has met someone in Tokyo who he clearly is much more compatibly with, and who is young and beautiful, he chooses to return, like a salmon, to the miserable home life he has stuck himself in. Introverted Sensation and Extraverted Feeling, suddenly in the driver’s seat, make him throw away adventure, new experiences, and possibilities in order to preserve miserable social obligations that make him miserable. He is trapped by his own personality.
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[URL]http://intuitivelyrational.wordpress.com/2010/12/26/the-tertiary-fe-or-why-enfjs-are-grand/[/URL]
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To break it down, I'm going to point specific experiences as they relate to me:
- They may be bizarrely obsessed with pleasing other people. - Yes
- They may be terrified of invoking social wrath. - Yes
- When this ‘episode’ combines with the inferior troubles of Introverted Sensation, they will experience panic about change – catastrophizing over the results of social mishaps. - Yes
- Like a deer in the headlights, social obligations and social conflict will loom to infinite sizes and run them down in the street. - OMG Yes!
- They go from having control of a limited Fe attitude to being completely dominated by an ugly contortion of it.
[I][B]What exactly is the ugly contortion of Fe?[/B][/I]
I have two theories [possible explanations]:
1. People-pleasing, self-sacrificial elements combined with some overly controlling tendencies brought in about by the very, very limited Si are usually brought about by an over-extension of Fe. An ENTP who's somehow twisted himself/herself up in meeting social expectations and even family expectations will come across as an extremely unhealthy ESFJ. They will appear to be perfectly happy in their giving/socially considerate behaviour, however, there's a nagging voice in the head that continues to battle back trying to re-assert itself that an ENTP is just not very happy being as socially considerate, giving, compassionate as a typical ESFJ would. The drain and strain is tremendous and it's something I've constantly felt --- but again, Fe when over-ruling logical explanations leads to poor decisions in the social arena.
2. However, in less unhealthy states, an ENTP may actually lead with Fe which acts as a negative controlling function over Ne -- which is another reason why people pointed out that my intuition seems to be over-ruled by a judging function.
The difference between an ESFJ's Fe-Ne and an ENTP's Ne-Fe is that in the latter [ENTP], Fe literally controls Ne and doesn't actually work with it. In an ENTP, when Fe leads, it negates Ne/Ti instead of giving it positive feedback about people's feelings. It scares the ENTP into believing all sorts of monstrosities about other people's intentions and motives, or at the same time see all kinds of negative things happening based on fighting/going against social rules and obligations.
The fear is of punishment through loss of relationships because some sort of social rule was broken -- or because some sort of convention was challenged. The ENTP questions the self and imposes those rules upon himself/herself even when the need to do so may not exist. It's all a result of surfing a stream of negative possibilities ---- so not very unlike an ExFJ. Of course, the intuition remains dominant, but it starts taking feedback from an immature Fe and starts projecting mostly negative scenarios that would happen if an ENTP doesn't follow convention instead of what they naturally do i.e. question it.
In the end however, even the negative scenarios are still very artfully justified using Ti but they contain logical fallacies showing a lack of foresight that an ENTP actually is gifted with.
Fe scares Ne into submission. It's the child function, and therefore the social rules/obligations that were ingrained into an ENTP's mind by his/her nurturing figure don't really mature to the point they would for an ExFJ. What this translates into is that even though the ENTP is still coming across as having a feeling core, it actually is childish. It is immature, playful.
Ultimately, the Fe in an ENTP wants to play with other people's emotional reactions and test them in order to understand them and assimilate them. As an ENTP matures, the Fe is best served if it's allowed to be playful and childish, but not to the extent of controlling/manipulating people and situations in their favour. Si is the grounding function for the dominant Ne and sort of acts as the anchor --- but when it's over-used, it acts as a ball and chain instead.
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