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Disintegration isn't so clear for me. I am prone to taking a short hiatus from a given situation when I've had enough. Sometimes, I walk out and try to think about it and sort it out. Other times, I decide it's not worth thinking about, give up, and will find something else to do or just sit on my ass and do nothing. Integration is difficult to describe as well. I feel... enlightened and feel that my priorities are in the right place. My confidence, at this point, is very consistent. When I feel my best, I'm thinking about doing something that will have a good effect on my environment. My curiousity is also at its ripest, and I will seek out knowledge with a pure soul and open mind. I also feel at peace with who I am and how I choose to deal with situations. When at my best, I become extremely mindful. I become mindful of myself, of others, and better prioritize what work needs to be done.

I am going to have to make a brief yet bold suggestion before I leave.

I can see the 3, and perhaps even the 7 fix. However, I am uncertain as to your 1 fix. I, personally, do not sense the superego in you but perhaps I am wrong. I will need to return to this.
I do suggest removing yourself from the type before you think and describe yourself. Your blog, well-written as it is, begins with a statement (I have been typed as 3) and then a long description that fits that type ensues. That is fine, because it is not difficult to see that you very well might be a 3. Still, I'd like to know you better as a person and not a number before I make that call.
Would a "Type Me" thread be out of the question?

I see 3w2 for sure. Even when you don't seem like you mean to portray a 3, you're always talking about attention, approval, being a chameleon, etc., i.e. definitely image core. Your disintegration sounds like it goes toward 9, too. Unlike SocioApathetic, I was going to say that I don't see much 7, moreso 1. The phrasing of the second paragraph sounds semi-critical of "slacker" types and portrays you as more workaholic than not. The paragraph about your family, you mention standing firm in your beliefs, which can be 1ish.

You could always take this test: Personality Types: Free tests - Enneagram and Myers Briggs It helped me realize that my heart fix was before my head fix.

Honestly, I don't read too much about E3's too much. I'm still trying to figure out E9! LOL So I really can't offer any suggestions. For that, I apologize.

I see you. You're a woman of conviction, strength and integrity. That is what I see.

Yeah, I definitely see the 3w2. I don't think you have to seek what is commonly acknowledged as "external standards of success" to be a 3. I think it's closer in meaning to seeking outward projects as markers of goals accomplished, which, from this post, is something I gather you exhibit a lot. Those projects usually tend to be examples of what society thinks is best...but if you've got a 1-fix and a 7-fix, I can see that you'd be inner-driven and creative.

I do get the sense you've got a 1-fix. Here's some reasons, MBTI mentioned some of the others:

I still give them respect even though I disagree with them. Is it really that hard to be respectful even if you don't agree with me? And for that matter, I've been good about admitting when I'm wrong... but when I get wronged, I'm not shown the same respect most of the time

You just have to follow the proper procedures and that's all there is to it. Just do what you're supposed to do, and you'll be fine. There's no need to panic or freak out. Just take all the measures that need to be taken.

It's not fair for me to work my ass off and get paid the same amount or less than those who are slack in their work.

Your 7-fix is harder to ascertain in this particular entry, but I've never thought of you as a 5 or 6 fixer.

Any reason you're rethinking your type and tritype?

Originally Posted by SocioApathetic

I am going to have to make a brief yet bold suggestion before I leave.

I can see the 3, and perhaps even the 7 fix. However, I am uncertain as to your 1 fix. I, personally, do not sense the superego in you but perhaps I am wrong. I will need to return to this.
I do suggest removing yourself from the type before you think and describe yourself. Your blog, well-written as it is, begins with a statement (I have been typed as 3) and then a long description that fits that type ensues. That is fine, because it is not difficult to see that you very well might be a 3. Still, I'd like to know you better as a person and not a number before I make that call.
Would a "Type Me" thread be out of the question?

A "type me" thread is not out of the question. The only reason I'm hesistant to fill one out is because it would be too damn easy to "give the right answers" so to speak. Knowing as much as I do about enneagram, I feel it would almost be unfair for me to create such a thread strictly because of my own bias. That's sort of why I decided to take more of the bloggy approach.

Originally Posted by holyrockthrower

Yeah, I definitely see the 3w2. I don't think you have to seek what is commonly acknowledged as "external standards of success" to be a 3. I think it's closer in meaning to seeking outward projects as markers of goals accomplished, which, from this post, is something I gather you exhibit a lot. Those projects usually tend to be examples of what society thinks is best...but if you've got a 1-fix and a 7-fix, I can see that you'd be inner-driven and creative.

I do get the sense you've got a 1-fix. Here's some reasons, MBTI mentioned some of the others:




Your 7-fix is harder to ascertain in this particular entry, but I've never thought of you as a 5 or 6 fixer.

Any reason you're rethinking your type and tritype?

I wouldn't say I'm rethinking my tri-type. I'm pretty confident my tri-type. What I lead with has been difficult to figure out. The thing is, when I'm having my down-time from a project, I'm a completely different person. For instance, I had a video chat with Swordsman of Mana last night. We talked for a good couple of hours, and he was pretty puzzled as to how I was typed as a 3. 7 seemed so obvious to him. The 7 fix is definitely there, and that's usually what shows when I take time to just chit-chat and build friendships with people. I suppose that when I have down-time from a project, I am way more relaxed, friendly, and fun-loving. Hell, even the way I manage other people can seem contrary to an assertive type 3 stereotype. I am assertive, but I'm very pleasant. I let people know where the boundaries are, but I also build them up so that they will want to work hard to meet our common goals. I like to have fun while accomplishing my goals. I think it's essential to do what you love and have fun doing it. Knowing your passions and pursuing them because it's the only thing that can keep your attention in the long-term... ugh, I don't know, lol. I want to live my life to the fullest, but I feel that there are certain things I need to do in order to have done that. I have far too much potential to just waste it all away.

I honestly believe this to be only superficially 3-ish. I do believe you have 3 in your tritype, but I find this passage more 8-ish than anything - specifically, 7w8. Why is that?

Firstly, I don't think a 3 would really write something like this. It's the same idea as with the functions - you don't talk about them, you do them. I don't think you wrote this because of your image, I think you wrote it because you want firmness of your leading type and haven't made up your mind. I wanted the same thing, and realized that was 8 talking, not 3.

Perhaps this is a bias, but I always sense an 8 wing, like mine, in the attitude of your posts. The "I don't give a fuck, I'm saying what I want" sort of thing. I'm like you - can go from "nice" (though for a 9 it's more calm) to absolutely kill the dog belligerent in a matter of minutes. That, as well, isn't 3.

Originally Posted by LXPilot

I honestly believe this to be only superficially 3-ish. I do believe you have 3 in your tritype, but I find this passage more 8-ish than anything - specifically, 7w8. Why is that?

Firstly, I don't think a 3 would really write something like this. It's the same idea as with the functions - you don't talk about them, you do them. I don't think you wrote this because of your image, I think you wrote it because you want firmness of your leading type and haven't made up your mind. I wanted the same thing, and realized that was 8 talking, not 3.

Perhaps this is a bias, but I always sense an 8 wing, like mine, in the attitude of your posts. The "I don't give a fuck, I'm saying what I want" sort of thing. I'm like you - can go from "nice" (though for a 9 it's more calm) to absolutely kill the dog belligerent in a matter of minutes. That, as well, isn't 3.

I've definitely considered 8, and 7w8 is likely my head fix, but consider this for a moment...

3s are very capable of self-reflection. Does it happen all the time? No, but writing one long blog in my life hardly discounts the possibility of type 3, lol. It was actually very refreshing for me to write it all out. My thoughts are so scattered, so writing was a brilliant way to organize them and express what I'm not used to expressing. It was nice to just... let it out. It was nice to be honest, up front, and realize that I could have a revelation while writing things out. Guess what, I had one ;) Anyways, there are many 3s who use writing as a form of expression, and it is a very healthy thing to do. I wouldn't be so closed-minded as to discount a type over what I would consider a baseless and unfounded assumption.

As for the "doing" and not talking thing... that's a completely subjective and again, unfounded assumption. And from my perspective, I'd like to ask, "Who the hell works to do something amazing and doesn't want to talk about it?" Granted, I don't easily share my problems with anyone. My boyfriend even has issues with getting me to open up about my own personal issues. I would rather handle those things by myself and on my own time. I do, however, like to share the progress of my projects. I am passionate about my projects, and I like to share the progress of my passions with those who are willing to listen. And this whole self-reflection thing is a project of mine. I'm passionate about my growth as a person, and I'm proud of myself for pushing myself out of my comfort zone.

And I think you're highly misinformed if you go along with the whole "3s only care about what other people think" crap. Unhealthy 3s might function that way, but as a 3 becomes healthier and more confident in themselves (and their identity), they realize that not everything is about gaining approval, winning, etc. I'm sure you know about the integration to type 6, so I won't go into more depth with that. What I'm saying is that you shouldn't make a blanket assumption about how all type 3s are functioning because different 3s are going to be at different levels in their growth. The same goes for every other type there is.

I know it may seem as if I'm unappreciative of your participation, but that couldn't further from the truth :) I'm glad you chimed in. I do enjoy putting my knowledge to the test. I hope you can come back and kick my ass. I'm looking forward to it :P

I want to be clear on what you are seeking feedback/insight on ....it seems as if you are confident your tritype is a combination of 371 but are now trying to determine if it's 731, 713, 137, or 173...is that correct or have I completely missed the point?

Btw enjoyed reading more about you. Thanks for sharing.

Originally Posted by n2freedom

I want to be clear on what you are seeking feedback/insight on ....it seems as if you are confident your tritype is a combination of 371 but are now trying to determine if it's 731, 713, 137, or 173...is that correct or have I completely missed the point?

Btw enjoyed reading more about you. Thanks for sharing.

Based on the information provided here and even from posts I've made on the forum throughout the past year, what type do you think I am? I am interested in getting opinions from those who are knowledgeable concerning enneagram :)

Originally Posted by Ace Face

Based on the information provided here and even from posts I've made on the forum throughout the past year, what type do you think I am? I am interested in getting opinions from those who are knowledgeable concerning enneagram :)

Gotcha. I know this is going to sound cliche. But, I really don't know. My impression is you go towards people. This thread has been the most revealing to me about you as a person. Most of your responses to threads (at least the ones I have read) have been witty, playful, and quick one-liners.

I have read many posts of significant revelation of who you are so basically I only have perceptions of your interaction style. Based on your interaction style you definitely seem to me like you move toward people (not against or away from people)...so that points to 2,6, or 7. Your energy seems to be directed outward which points to 2, 7, or 8. You seem to have a very good sense of boundaries (yours and others) and will not hesitate to be assertive when someone appears to cross your boundaries..so then 2 would be eliminated because most Enneagram scholars indicated 2s struggle with issues of boundaries.

You don't come across as engaging a reactive style when I have observed instances of conflict on the forum. So, then 6 or 8 would be off the table.From observation it seems to me that you perceive conflicts are resolved when you are able to move to "positive ground" as soon as possible which points to 2, 7, or 9. Based on the posts I've read it doesn't appear that you dwell on negativity (not yours or any one else's for that matter) and you attempt to frame things in the most positive light as possible..again points 2, 7, or 9.

It seems as if you are not in the least bit uncomfortable being the center of attention, which seems to point to 2,3,7. You don't come across as being sensitive to rejection in the least bit so again...I would cross 2 off the list based on that. So, it kind of leaves me with either 3 or 7 based on interaction/behavioral cues alone.

Without knowing your core motivations, fears, and/or desires....I would turn to the Harmonic Groups and habitual responses to try to narrow it down. With 7 being in the Positive Outlook and 3 being in the Competency group ...if I were to use that as a tie breaker...then my guess would be 7.

If I use R&H's social roles as the tie breaker I would guess 7 again, as I perceive you in the social role as "The Energizer" not "The Best" because you definitely pump energy and excitement into a situation. Not to mention you come across as very energetic overall. Not sure I was much help...but my guess would be 7 based on my perceptions.

I'm with n2 on...all of that. I don't have much else to contribute that hasn't been said.

I definitely think you're right about the tri-type.

Sorry for the late reply, I completely forgot about this. I think 3w2 and 7w6 can look alike superficially behavior wise. I don't know you, but I never saw anything to question core 3.

But while I agree that unhealthy 3s care about what others think of them in a compulsive, destructive way (especially with regards to the means through which they try to get that attention), it doesn't mean that healthy 3s don't engage in this at all. They still care about their presentation and how they come across, only in a healthier way. They're still image types, and health level doesn't change that. I think you're uncomfortable with that idea (understandable) and that to me, is also quite image type of you.

Have you ever considered a CP 6 head fix?

Originally Posted by kaleidoscope

Sorry for the late reply, I completely forgot about this. I think 3w2 and 7w6 can look alike superficially behavior wise. I don't know you, but I never saw anything to question core 3.

But while I agree that unhealthy 3s care about what others think of them in a compulsive, destructive way (especially with regards to the means through which they try to get that attention), it doesn't mean that healthy 3s don't engage in this at all. They still care about their presentation and how they come across, only in a healthier way. They're still image types, and health level doesn't change that. I think you're uncomfortable with that idea (understandable) and that to me, is also quite image type of you.

Have you ever considered a CP 6 head fix?

I actually have, but the motivations really just aren't there. I've tried ordering motivations I relate to from greatest to least before. I've used different people's "definitions" of core motivations. 3, 8, and 7 usually end up being the top three while 5, 6, and 9 usually end up at the bottom.

I first considered CP 6 when I was typed as 8w7. I was still pretty new to the enneagram, but I knew that while many of the outward behaviors of those two types can look alike, the motivations are indeed completely different. It also helps to know CP 6s in my own life. I know both healthy and unhealthy ones, as well as ones that seem to flucuate. My grandmother is CP 6w7, 1w9, 2w3, my best friend is CP 6w5, 9w8, 4w3 (super interesting combo, lol), and my sister (while actually phobic) has her CP moments. She is a 6w5, 1w9, 3w2. I have clashed with them all at many points in my life. When they're healthy, we have the best relationships imaginable. When they sink to unhealthy levels... God help us all, lol. And when I sink to an unhealthy level at the same time, they see it as ground to step all over me because they rarely get the chance otherwise. It's almost like "payback" for every other time they couldn't get me to feel bad for my choices, opinions, etc. It's definitely not the most enjoyable experience. Wow, tangent city. Anyways, yes, I have considered it, and have even hoped to be a 6 at times, but if I'm honest, it's a very obvious no. The motivations don't line up, and just from the observations I've had of the CP 6s in my own life, it's an easy answer.