Myers Briggs and Enneagram Correlation

Originally Posted by Happy

Why won't you guys just create a survey instead of a poll?

How would you go about doing that?

Alright when I have time, I'll create one.

I'm an ENFJ and a 2w3.

Originally Posted by MannyP

Note: Riso and Hudson never actually mentioned specific types in their book Personality Types; rather, they correlated them to Jung functions, like this:

1. Extraverted Thinking
2. Extraverted Feeling
3. Can be any function
4. Introverted Intuition
5. Introverted Thinking
6. Introverted Feeling
7. Extraverted Sensing
8. Extraverted Intuition
9. Introverted Sensing

As you can see from the link above, even the experts can't agree on anything. Enneagram and MBTI measure two completely different things, and while there may be patterns (for example, an introverted NT Type 2 wouldn't be so common), I personally don't see a correlation between the two.

When I read these correlations, I'd inferred that they didn't mean for them to be the end all, be all for each type. It was more about matching up e-type with the descriptions that Jung provided. I really need to find the darn book...it's buried under my mess here....somewhere.

Originally Posted by MannyP

Here's a link to a site that has charts on various theories of Enneagram-MBTI correlation (there was one on a Geocities site that I liked too, but now Geocities is gone ). This site also has the results from a study, though.

Charts

Note: Riso and Hudson never actually mentioned specific types in their book Personality Types; rather, they correlated them to Jung functions, like this:

1. Extraverted Thinking
2. Extraverted Feeling
3. Can be any function
4. Introverted Intuition
5. Introverted Thinking
6. Introverted Feeling
7. Extraverted Sensing
8. Extraverted Intuition
9. Introverted Sensing

As you can see from the link above, even the experts can't agree on anything. Enneagram and MBTI measure two completely different things, and while there may be patterns (for example, an introverted NT Type 2 wouldn't be so common), I personally don't see a correlation between the two.

THIS is what i always thought
not sure of the particular cases though
but i always thought that enneagram types had relation with the jungian primary functions

Originally Posted by Ungweliante

As an ENFP-4, I disagree with this. I would go so far as to say that the enneagram and MBTI are possibly not comparable.

Originally Posted by Liontiger

I think there is a correlation between the two, but it's a weak one. I'm more interested to see how they work together as a dynamic: Enneagram + MBTI = ?

I completely agree to those two posts.^

The way I see it, MBTI and Enneagram indicate two different things. I see MBTI as how a person operates, and Enneagram as why.

@The World at Large: As for myself, 9 describes a part of me that nothing in INFP describes. It describes a desire for peace, and a major aversion to conflict. Yes, it provides feelings that are then used by my Fi to make decisions. However, so can other Enneagram types. Also, type 9 thinkers use their logic to satisfy the desires brought on by 9.

My INFP actually clashes at times with my type 9. It is pretty common for me to be in situations where I feel guilty for not saying anything (famed INFP values), but also afraid to say anything and start a conflict (type 9 conflict avoidance).

I think that there are some MBTI types that are more common with certain Enneagram types, but I personally don't think that means MBTI type ABCD = Enneagram type E anymore than race X = economic status Y.

I don't know for sure, but I would like to think that there can be people, albeit rare, of any combination of MBTI and Enneagram type.

I think the chart is fine, like those types are most likely to have that enneagram type. But there are exceptions, such as I'm not a 4, I'm a 6, but there's nothing wrong with that :) There's exceptionseven in MBTI, but that doesn't make it less valid.

Those of you who disagree with the chart, feel free to concoct one of your own. This was made by an anonymous member who is familiar with both the Myers Briggs and Enneagram theories.

Yay, I fit! *dances*

I tweak the original a little based on my own observations of members in general. My added correlations might be wrong and people might mistype themselves etc etc but nevertheless this is how I've perceived it. I just add correlations to the original; not restrict them to these types only.

ISTP+INTP as 9's. INFJ+INFP as 5's. ENFP as 4's and 3's. INFJ as 6's and 2's. INTJ as 8's and 1's. ISTJ as 6's. ISFP+ISTP as 7's (unsure about these though).