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This is a discussion on Dominant-Tertiary Loops and Common Personality Disorders within the Articles forums, part of the Announcements category; Originally Posted by unleashthehounds Definately describes an ISFP I know.. I questioned her type because she really seemed lacking in ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by unleashthehounds View Post
    Definately describes an ISFP I know.. I questioned her type because she really seemed lacking in Se, but is extremely paranoid!


    Can an INTP get stuck in an Ne-Fe loop?
    Seems like that would make him an ENTP, since it would require Ne and Fe to supersede Ti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    Seems like that would make him an ENTP, since it would require Ne and Fe to supersede Ti.
    I have questioned whether I'm a shy ENTP. I always test INTP though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unleashthehounds View Post
    I've been in a rather extraverted phase for the past year or so. My Ne is active as always, but lately it seems like my Fe is emerging. I've been less reliant on Ti and Si. I've been wanting more attention than is typical for me.
    Well, that does not sound like a "Loop". Maybe you simply felt youself in a comfortable extroverted way. Think ENTP's are NeTi and as extroverted they show frequently the behavior you described. Maybe simple you were in a Ne>Ti mental state.

    For being a real Loop, it should be negative state corrupting your mind, ie, you get worse and worse, less capable of acting properly, with less control of yourself and your surroundings, util you leave it. Your extroverted state does not sound like this.

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    I should have added, that a aux/inf loop is likely some sort of "parent/anima" combo; to use the archetypes. You're both trying to parent others, at the same time as looking up to the group. Strange, I guess. Perhaps trying to win approval by showing how well you can "preach the auxiliary".

    I believe out of the eight functions for each type, any combo "loop" can probably be described by the archetype complexes working together. (including primary with shadows).
    Last edited by Eric B; 06-29-2010 at 09:24 AM.

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    I'm confused.
    I'm going to eat a lemon.
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    Thanks for this. Perhaps this is part of the reason why I can't figure out my type - because I don't have a good grip on my aux function? I don't know.

    From the descriptions you provided, I can see myself in:


    • ENTP/ESFJ: Ne/Fe or Fe/Ne--Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
    • ESFP/ENTJ: Se/Te or Te/Se--Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder

    And those are really the only two. Perhaps those are the four types that I need to be looking at?

    I know I have a pretty strong Fi, but I know it's not my dominant. It can't be. I have a pretty good grip on Se and Si as well. And I'm 100% certain that Ni is my least used function. But that's all I know for sure.

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    ISTP/INFJ: Ti/Ni or Ni/Ti--Schizoid Personality Disorder. These types are socially incompetent for lack of trying, because they see little to no value in significant interaction with others. They live in their own abstract worlds, constantly second-guessing themselves as Ti poses a framework for a problem and Ni shoots it down as too definitionally precise. Without any real external input, these two functions will dream up all sorts of elaborate systems and implications for them, only to repeat their own self-defeating behavior, never bothering to emphasize putting any of its intense ideas into practice. Frequent disregard for rules, laws and other forms of behavioral standards is common, as no function provides any significant sense of external influence. If Se/Fe were doing its job, the user would recognize the value of connecting with others and of paying attention to their needs, preferences, habits and appearances.
    You got me. I am constant rebel always trying to find ways to break rules. I tend to be "weird" not caring about how I look in public and not caring about social standards.


    ISFP/INTJ: Fi/Ni or Ni/Fi--Paranoid Personality Disorder. These types are your typical conspiracy theorists; they cling deeply to their personal values and can find a conspiracy to assault or attack those values everywhere they look. Chronically distrustful of others' intentions for no legitimate reason, these types are certain they are the only ones who really know "the truth." The inferior function, Te or Se, can sometimes lead to an unconscious desire to attract the attention of or lead/organize others in efforts to expose the nefarious conspiracies they invariably see everywhere. If Te/Se were doing its job, these types would be able to look around them and observe empirical evidence that most of their theories are probably not reflected in reality, but as they rely almost entirely on internal validation, Ni will go to any lengths to justify Fi's emotion-based suspicions. (I mentioned Dale Gribble from King of the Hill in a previous article--he's a perfect example.) There's also this guy Victor on typologycentral who's such a perfect example of this it's absolutely ridiculous. ;)
    This is also me. But I think the first one fits more.
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    I could see myself in schizotypal, schizoid, and avoidant personality disorder (not that I have these disorders!).

    Hmmm, I wonder that if the dominant-tertiary loop caused me to seriously consider INTP....

    For some reason, this article makes me want to reconsider my type, or maybe that's just my fantasy.

  9. #29

    Thanks for the fascinating article. :D

    I was wondering about this...

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    Really some people can have multiple personality disorders, I believe schiziod personality disorder could easily fit INTP too. I fit alot of the criteria for schiziod, sometimes I'm really apathetic and have mostly neutral moods, I am not bother by being alone for long periods of time, I could care less what most people think of me but once I do find someone willing to listen to me I can talk for hours and hours jumping from random topics. I don't have many traits associated with avoidant personality disorder, I've always consider that extreme shyness. Could personality disorders have to do with conditions outside jungian function orders? I do know a person has to fit at least 4 of 7 criteria for schiziod personality disorder. Ne also sounds introverted compared to other extroverted functions like Fe and Se, so could this make even some ENTPs and ENFPs "introverted" according to conventional definitions(social vs reserved)?


     
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