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This is a discussion on Dominant-Tertiary Loops and Common Personality Disorders within the Articles forums, part of the Announcements category; Again, an excellent post, SW. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Only some names of the disorders does not match with ...

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    Again, an excellent post, SW. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Only some names of the disorders does not match with the idea I have about them, but I prefer to reread its descriptions before commenting this.

    I would like to comment two cases IRL: my mother, who I previously typed as ISTJ, and my brother, ESTJ.
    Both of them are control freaks, my mother about objects (cleaner maniac) and my brother about people (if you don't do what I say, then you're bad, you're lazy, etc, etc, etc). The last also has no respect for other's feelings, he give a shit because "he has right" (in his mind, obviously). I do not remeber any of them recognizing mistakes...

    Should I consider ESFP/ENTJ for my mother and maybe also my brother? Although what you said about ESTJ also matches, the difference between this two cases are a bit diffuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MensSuperMateriam View Post

    Should I consider ESFP/ENTJ for my mother and maybe also my brother? Although what you said about ESTJ also matches, the difference between this two cases are a bit diffuse.
    I dunno, what evidence of which functions do you see in them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    I dunno, what evidence of which functions do you see in them?
    Mother: Need order in the objects in the outside world. Not very intuitive, immediate reality. Vivid memory for past experinces, but very bad for concepts (more when abstracts)=Si. Unwilling to consider others' emotions, especially when in a bad mood: victimhood (Fi?). Dislike absolutemy mi "independent reasoning style" (Ti), for her, majority opinions are right. As I see her introverted: Si+Te+Fi=ISTJ.

    Brother. He's always right; he do things in correct way (not moral, functional way) = Te. His opinions are very important, others' opinions and feelings are void = Fi. Everybody should do things in his way (also Te). As I see him more concret than abstract --> Si. But I'm not very sure in this point. Clearly extroverted. Conclusion: ESTJ or ENTJ.
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    But yeah...I really have a hard time figuring out myself. But my mom seemed to think nothing of it lol
    That's why I've been constantly debating what my type is...

    But would someone actually have one of those personality disorders if they just need to develop their secondary function? Most people would just have weaker forms of those disorders, right?...or...stupid questions lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyx View Post
    But would someone actually have one of those personality disorders if they just need to develop their secondary function? Most people would just have weaker forms of those disorders, right?...or...stupid questions lol
    Well it depends of how easy people can correct their bad tendences. While these behaviors imply problems in life, they will be disorders, or I believe this is the formal definition of it.

    In my personal case, I can say that yes, I sometimes suffer from TiSi loops. But not really for being introvert and feeling better "alone". What uses to catalyse my bad mental state is not shyness, but bad emotional experientes. Feeling forced to live by Te rules (parents, bosses, and life in general) is what really make me sick, and sometimes I disconnect hoping that a sort of nuke destroy all

    Finding anything intersting, stimulating to do (Ne) is what logically reactivates my good mental state. I suppose that more or less, the same for everybody: reactivating properly the aux function, all come to be well again.

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    My mother looks like a dead ringer for an ISF, but it's really SiFi, and she is simply reflecting the old fashioned values she was brought up in, where women are natural Feelers. When I was growing up, the Te surfaced at a time when she was trying to be more modern and independent, and it was sort of a letdown. The logical focus was always there, but now it was more apparent in life decisions and attitudes. In retirement, she has largely gone back to her SF appearance, spending time going to art school, and being more laid back.
    So with her, it was not the avoidant disorder, it was just a traditional role.
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    Definately describes an ISFP I know.. I questioned her type because she really seemed lacking in Se, but is extremely paranoid!


    Can an INTP get stuck in an Ne-Fe loop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by unleashthehounds View Post
    Can an INTP get stuck in an Ne-Fe loop?
    Describe how that loop would be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MensSuperMateriam View Post
    Describe how that loop would be.
    I've been in a rather extraverted phase for the past year or so. My Ne is active as always, but lately it seems like my Fe is emerging. I've been less reliant on Ti and Si. I've been wanting more attention than is typical for me.

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    For me, it's having a lot of ideas, and trying to connect ot others with them (raise interest, pertain them to the discussions, etc).


     
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